You can dislike a policy and still be forced to live under it.
I have no choice but to use the American health care system, and I know how shitty it is, especially given the fact that Obama had a supermajority for a time and could have implemented universal health care. Few things will anger me as quickly as someone saying we have ‘access’ to health care when that supposed access is largely contingent on whether or not you can afford to be price-gouged.
You’re simply wrong here. Obama tried his damndest for universal health care. Supermajority or not, the republicans in congress used every trick in the book to stymie it until they gained the majority. The ACA was a lame compromise and the worst of both worlds, but it’s still benefitted millions including those who hate illogically.
What are not legitimate concerns are those being put forward claiming a public option is somehow a Trojan horse for a single-payer system. I’ll be honest. There are countries where a single-payer system may be working. But I believe – and I’ve even taken some flak from members of my own party for this belief – that it is important for us to build on our traditions here in the United States. So, when you hear the naysayers claim that I’m trying to bring about government-run health care, know this – they are not telling the truth.
What I am trying to do – and what a public option will help do – is put affordable health care within reach for millions of Americans. And to help ensure that everyone can afford the cost of a health care option in our Exchange, we need to provide assistance to families who need it. That way, there will be no reason at all for anyone to remain uninsured.
The filibuster was the Democrats’ excuse. They used that excuse many times, and it was never legitimate.
If minority Republicans can use it to block everything, then minority Democrats can too … except that’s not how it played out … and that’s how we know that the corporate Dems were just pandering to big pharma et al.
That’s always the first argument. The poor, defenseless Dems are just powerless to make real, substantial change. Their hands are tied. Better things simply aren’t possible. It was all the fault of the rotating villain.
And yet people still vote for these same Democrats who are bleeding them dry.
I can’t imagine it’s that great for a country where tens of millions can’t absorb a sudden $400 expense without going further into debt, seeing as how it’s a capitalist system that price-gouges people for their care.
You’re technically correct but you’re ignoring the intention of the post. I agree Obamacare sucks. I want Medicare for All. But the people this post is obviously directed at want it to go away for reasons and just go back to how it was before.
You can dislike a policy and still be forced to live under it.
I have no choice but to use the American health care system, and I know how shitty it is, especially given the fact that Obama had a supermajority for a time and could have implemented universal health care. Few things will anger me as quickly as someone saying we have ‘access’ to health care when that supposed access is largely contingent on whether or not you can afford to be price-gouged.
Obama was not a good president.
You’re simply wrong here. Obama tried his damndest for universal health care. Supermajority or not, the republicans in congress used every trick in the book to stymie it until they gained the majority. The ACA was a lame compromise and the worst of both worlds, but it’s still benefitted millions including those who hate illogically.
– obama 2009
https://www.politico.com/blogs/ben-smith/2009/06/obama-rejects-single-payer-019106
This was said after single-payer was blocked. This was his version of RomneyCare, in response to the original vision being defeated via filibuster.
The filibuster was the Democrats’ excuse. They used that excuse many times, and it was never legitimate.
If minority Republicans can use it to block everything, then minority Democrats can too … except that’s not how it played out … and that’s how we know that the corporate Dems were just pandering to big pharma et al.
No he didn’t. The Dems were offered a large lobbyist check and took it.
Do you feel like sourcing that?
You‘re doing important work against misinformation. Thank you.
Just being a petty asshole about unsourced information, like I always have been.
Sounds good to me. :)
You can thank Sen. Joe Lieberman for the killing of a public option. Also, https://www.huffpost.com/entry/debunking-the-myth-obamas_b_1929869 .
LOL
That’s always the first argument. The poor, defenseless Dems are just powerless to make real, substantial change. Their hands are tied. Better things simply aren’t possible. It was all the fault of the rotating villain.
And yet people still vote for these same Democrats who are bleeding them dry.
I’d say better than the previous or later
I’m glad it’s working out for you.
I can’t imagine it’s that great for a country where tens of millions can’t absorb a sudden $400 expense without going further into debt, seeing as how it’s a capitalist system that price-gouges people for their care.
Uh, of course it’s not that great–but that doesn’t mean it isn’t better or we want to go backwards to when it was worse.
You’re technically correct but you’re ignoring the intention of the post. I agree Obamacare sucks. I want Medicare for All. But the people this post is obviously directed at want it to go away for reasons and just go back to how it was before.