You didn’t answer any of my questions and your hostility is more funny than anything. Do you also get this kneejerk reaction when the NYT or the Guardian publish an opinion piece calling to bomb Iran? Because these count as news, they’re published in real newspapers after all!
News outlets very specifically include sections such as Opinion. They do not include speculative conspiracy theories on the front page (or anywhere) labeled as News.
What’s the difference between an opinion section and what you deem “speculative conspiracy theories”?
As a matter of fact what’s the difference between their front page news and the NYT directly quoting Bush making the case to go to war with Iraq? Weren’t they also passing off speculative (Saddam was responsible for 9/11) conspiracy theories (Iraq had WMDs) as News?
Or is the problem that they are more famous than me thus their opinion is worth more than mine?
What’s the difference between an opinion section and what you deem “speculative conspiracy theories”?
That’s wholly irrelevant. If you want to be an investigative reporter and get real facts to report, have at it and post it as news. You have not done this. You are making guesses. Guesses, by someone with no qualifications or influence, are not news.
Anything spoken / written by a political leader is news. If you were someone who influenced millions of people, your opinion would be news.
If I sat down and wrote out a blog about how I believe the 9/11 attacks were orchestrated, would that be News? I mean, I guess you would argue that it is but I am telling you, by definition, it most certainly is not.
I don’t know what makes you believe your armchair speculation is NEWS. The disconnect is so vast that my brain is breaking. I don’t understand how people on this earth have chosen to ignore the definition of words to suit their own narrative and feelings.
Someone reporting news. OP is NOT reporting news. They are speculating. This is an opinion piece. They’re a fine writer and thinker but not a journalist and not reporting factual news.
OP has written an article speculating how explosives could have been inserted into pagers. It’s not news, it’s speculation. Speculation is not news, it’s opinion.
But isn’t so much journalism nowadays characterised by unsubstantiated speculation? (i.e. propaganda, if not simply clickbait filler pretending analysis)
It seems to me your criticism amounts essentially to your dislike of the thesis of this piece. This can be legitimate, but not what you’ve argued here.
Isn’t this piece an example of precisely the supposed promise of the internet, in the sense that journalism becomes democratised and anyone can publish and disseminate analysis, which can be evaluated on its merits rather than institutional validation and inertia based on opaque criteria? (I would of course argue the aggregated needs of capital, but I won’t force that in)
But isn’t so much journalism nowadays characterised by unsubstantiated speculation
No, by definition, a billion percent NO. I don’t understand how words have lost their meaning today.
your criticism amounts essentially to your dislike of the thesis of this piece.
Show me one word that criticizes “the thesis” of the piece. I have not. In fact, I think it’s well written and thought provoking (in the same vein as a 9/11 or UFO theory is). I have argued, not that an argument should need to be made because /reality/ and /definitions of words/, that it is a random person with no journalistic credentials making, and admitting to, unsubstantiated claims based on guesses and supposes. This, by definition, is not journalism - nor NEWS.
Dude. There is nothing wrong with the fucking article other than it is not fucking news.
How broken are people? Is it the fox newses that have broken you? TikTok? Reddit? Twitter? Do people have some false belief that armchair speculation, random ideas and theories with no source to back it up, is fucking NEWS?
Furthermore, the rules of this forum require a link be from an actual news source. This is not.
from reading, don’t believe you (oxjox) happen to even know who CriticalResist8 is let alone who he works for or anything else and that what you want to spread as truth about him (her?) really only is your weak personal shortthought quick-response-cause-i-can-insult-someone opinion. But of course i do not “know” if that is true about you even though i happen to believe that now. how could i know?
i didn’t think CR8 was a journalist either, but i wouldn’t state that i knew he wasn’t until i actually know that as a fact. Do you know that as a fact? Did you check his identity, papers or such?
There are appropriate places for your work. This is not the place.
please, oxjox, do not spread untrue informations or unproven guesses as truth about other people here, lemmy is not a place for such or any type of insults.
thank you for not doing such again !!
You’re not a journalist and speculation is not news. You’re a basement dweller with no first hand account of anything.
There are appropriate places for your work. This is not the place.
You didn’t answer any of my questions and your hostility is more funny than anything. Do you also get this kneejerk reaction when the NYT or the Guardian publish an opinion piece calling to bomb Iran? Because these count as news, they’re published in real newspapers after all!
News outlets very specifically include sections such as Opinion. They do not include speculative conspiracy theories on the front page (or anywhere) labeled as News.
What’s the difference between an opinion section and what you deem “speculative conspiracy theories”?
As a matter of fact what’s the difference between their front page news and the NYT directly quoting Bush making the case to go to war with Iraq? Weren’t they also passing off speculative (Saddam was responsible for 9/11) conspiracy theories (Iraq had WMDs) as News?
Or is the problem that they are more famous than me thus their opinion is worth more than mine?
That’s wholly irrelevant. If you want to be an investigative reporter and get real facts to report, have at it and post it as news. You have not done this. You are making guesses. Guesses, by someone with no qualifications or influence, are not news.
Anything spoken / written by a political leader is news. If you were someone who influenced millions of people, your opinion would be news.
If I sat down and wrote out a blog about how I believe the 9/11 attacks were orchestrated, would that be News? I mean, I guess you would argue that it is but I am telling you, by definition, it most certainly is not.
I don’t know what makes you believe your armchair speculation is NEWS. The disconnect is so vast that my brain is breaking. I don’t understand how people on this earth have chosen to ignore the definition of words to suit their own narrative and feelings.
I don’t know, I just find it funny that you care so much about this. It’s just lemmy.
Who counts as a journalist?
Someone reporting news. OP is NOT reporting news. They are speculating. This is an opinion piece. They’re a fine writer and thinker but not a journalist and not reporting factual news.
what the fuck are you talking about
OP has written an article speculating how explosives could have been inserted into pagers. It’s not news, it’s speculation. Speculation is not news, it’s opinion.
What’s gonna happen if the post stays up? Probably nothing, so why are you upset
I wasn’t upset at all until people started claiming that the unsubstantiated speculations by some irrelevant person is the same as world news.
It’s a great thought provoking piece of work. It’s just not news.
It’s fine. If the rules of this forum are no longer relevant, I just won’t subscribe to it anymore. The internet sucks.
But isn’t so much journalism nowadays characterised by unsubstantiated speculation? (i.e. propaganda, if not simply clickbait filler pretending analysis)
It seems to me your criticism amounts essentially to your dislike of the thesis of this piece. This can be legitimate, but not what you’ve argued here.
Isn’t this piece an example of precisely the supposed promise of the internet, in the sense that journalism becomes democratised and anyone can publish and disseminate analysis, which can be evaluated on its merits rather than institutional validation and inertia based on opaque criteria? (I would of course argue the aggregated needs of capital, but I won’t force that in)
No, by definition, a billion percent NO. I don’t understand how words have lost their meaning today.
Show me one word that criticizes “the thesis” of the piece. I have not. In fact, I think it’s well written and thought provoking (in the same vein as a 9/11 or UFO theory is). I have argued, not that an argument should need to be made because /reality/ and /definitions of words/, that it is a random person with no journalistic credentials making, and admitting to, unsubstantiated claims based on guesses and supposes. This, by definition, is not journalism - nor NEWS.
Dude. There is nothing wrong with the fucking article other than it is not fucking news.
How broken are people? Is it the fox newses that have broken you? TikTok? Reddit? Twitter? Do people have some false belief that armchair speculation, random ideas and theories with no source to back it up, is fucking NEWS?
Furthermore, the rules of this forum require a link be from an actual news source. This is not.
clown
That’s a perfect response to enforce my observation that people no longer have the sense of what words mean.
from reading, don’t believe you (oxjox) happen to even know who CriticalResist8 is let alone who he works for or anything else and that what you want to spread as truth about him (her?) really only is your weak personal shortthought quick-response-cause-i-can-insult-someone opinion. But of course i do not “know” if that is true about you even though i happen to believe that now. how could i know?
i didn’t think CR8 was a journalist either, but i wouldn’t state that i knew he wasn’t until i actually know that as a fact. Do you know that as a fact? Did you check his identity, papers or such?
please, oxjox, do not spread untrue informations or unproven guesses as truth about other people here, lemmy is not a place for such or any type of insults. thank you for not doing such again !!
I did. https://criticalresist.substack.com/about
How broken are you people to not understand what is news and what is speculative opinion? This is not a debate. This is a matter of facts.