• Oppopity@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    Anarchists are left. Anything to the left of capitalism is left. Anarchists want to get rid of capitalism.

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      2 months ago

      Could you elaborate? My understanding of anarchism is the goal of eliminating government. That won’t eliminate an economic system that originated organically.

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        My understanding of anarchism is the goal of eliminating government

        The finer details will always change depending who you ask, but yes, it’s generally either the elimination of government, or of all ‘unjust hierarchies’ (which includes state government).

        As someone else mentioned, ideological anarchists tend to be socialists, and in this context ‘anarchism’ is assumed to be that socialist strain, but not everyone calling themselves an anarchist is also a socialist. It’s a broad school of thought.

        That won’t eliminate an economic system that originated organically.

        Capitalism isn’t organic. I can’t think of a case where it has developed outside of a revolution (like the anti-monarchist revolutions) and/or imperial suppression. It requires the enclosure of the commons and development of private property security forces like a police, neither of those are an organic phenomenon.

        If anything, I would assume anarchism is more organic, since it could be found in many hunter-gatherer gift economies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primitive_communism#Example_societies

        Now, I’m personally not convinced that this makes anarchism appropriate for our industrial/post-industrial societies, but it’s not inorganic.

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        Anarchists are usually leftists… though not all of them are, some can be quite selfish

        I think it’s a beautiful ideology, but one that can’t really stand up to imperialistic powers in the real world

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          one that can’t really stand up to imperialistic powers in the real word

          Which is why I am communist and not anarchist. To fight capitalism one must organize much more than anarchy movements could .

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        2 months ago

        No its the idea that authority/power is bad and we shouldn’t have it.

        Including cops, oligarchs, presidents, kings, popes, and sometimes even bed times.

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        2 months ago

        Anarcho-capitalism is an oxymoron.

        As Wikipedia succinctly (and loosely) put it, anarchy is society without rulers - a society without authority or hierarchy. Authority and hierarchy would definitely be present in anarcho-capitalism. Wealth, power, and influence would likely still concentrate into the hands of the few (i.e. rulers).

        It’s essentially just capitalism without an official state and practices like regulation or reigning in corporate power. Corporations would function effectively as states in such a scenario.