I feel kinda trapped into iOS. i have a whole ecosystem I’ve been invested in for ages. Plus if I leave my wife will crucify me. also bought this expensive ass phone and that’s it for now.
Well yeah that’s Apple’s whole shtick, making anything only compatible with their own ecosystem with as much lock-in as possible. It’s a genuinely drug dealer-like approach, they’ve even got “the first one’s free” with cheap Ipads and Neo.
and forced to charge app fees and subscriptions to update the app, every time apple decides to add some unnecessary control or UI change. all for apple can collect a portion on all those tasty fees.
Yeah, you’re good. Some people are just bad at expressing themselves.
We all understand the systems that they use to tie you into their walled garden.
Escaping takes time and money now (and it isn’t like PC hardware is cheap currently…). You can still get a cheap tower from whatever marketplace/craiglist service is popular where you live and setup a Linux server and do things that are compatible with your existing devices like pi-hole, Jellyfin, etc.
I know a lot of programmers and sysadmins that use Apple laptops to interface with their Linux backend.
"I know everyone warned me walking in lava was a bad idea. but my wife, who is addicted to tiktok and lives beyond her means constantly, Insisted it’s amazing. the best new trend. now I’m locked in…
litterally, I’m locked in, the hospital won’t let me leave as I have no legs. I’m stuck… I don’t know what to do. ~ Sent from a iPhone"
yes, please shame. shame is effective tool. it’s the same tool that got people into using apple ecosystems in the first place.
build up enough frustration, they will download their data to file, sell their devices and jump ship. while telling their wife to “please think beyond a check mark, or will I have to bail you out of jail when your smashing TVs in the shops because of a tiktok trend telling you to”.
it’s hard to switch and go against the flow. the longer you wait, the harder it gets. till one day, you cannot leave at all.
I have been hating on macs since the ipod took off, for the same reasons people are mad at enshittification and lack of control over your own hardware.
with Linux, you invest your time once. with apple, android and M$ you invest your time, and your money after every patch and change.
every new subscription fee, every added bug that’s actually a “feature”, every forced “upsell” for a “feature” they once offered but removed to put it behind a paywall, shove AI into it and host it from a “cloud” server 2000km away.
I think people interpreted my comment differently than I expected. Most people are Linux users because they like tinkering with their computer. That takes time. Getting all your devices/accessories/accounts working on Linux that used to work on other OSes takes time because they probably don’t have 1st party support. Otherwise you can use Android or Apple or whatever and just take what you get with less tinkering.
I’ve been using the same pro Windows license that I got for free in college and have never paid Microsoft a dime. I don’t know of any forced subscription fees. Paying for more cloud storage, etc. is a shitty practice but certainly not unique to MS.
I am using my VR headset playing half-life alyx, while using my premium Logitech mouse, Elgato stream deck and streaming to YouTube.
nothing has any issues. all of my messaging services have apps and just work “out of the box”. setup took me maybe 20 minutes. most of it was just going to my phone for 2fa.
only time this is ever a issue is obscure, windows only applications that use special hardware authentication like some old CAD software. or some silly editing software like Adobe cloud who intentionally block Linux. (also older adobe software is better anyways and works. Linux alternatives exist and work equally as good.)
I remember how it was 5 & 10 years ago. struggling at each step. but it’s not the case today. on the rare occasion I need to spend time diagnosing something, it’s usually because the company behind it did something disgusting, that makes me want to stop using their services anyways.
it’s rarely ever hardware or software that doesn’t use online services.
Just two years ago I switched back from popos to Windows for HDR (no mainline support at the time), Logitech gaming mouse/keyboard support (basic m/k functionality worked but the programmable keys were spotty), motherboard temperature monitoring SW (motherboard too new to get reliable values), and occasional instability or weird rendering in gaming (Nvidia).
Linux works great for some scenarios. Development in Linux is great. But it depends on your use cases.
one of the things I’ve been happy about in the last 24mo, is the HDR and NVIDIA support. until last year I was still using my old 2070 (non super) as I was waiting to upgrade.
that became more and more rock solid on the open NVIDIA driver.
when KDE put HDR into stable and then proton got HDR. now Firefox and Chrome. I’ve been in bliss. I don’t even get this good of HDR support on windows and I still have that on a secure NVME for work lol
there is 2 apps for modifying Logitech kbd controls. I don’t use either, but I would take a look at some wikis if you try again. personally I just avoid logi for anything but mice and webcams. also avoid Razr for anything, backdoors in their drivers are just plain stupid.
motherboard sensors I can get, I have a issue with mine with lmsensors, I’m a longtime Linux user so I can navigate to fix that with some dkms kernel modules… but I totally get how and why this would be a issue and full blame lmsensors for being too bloody slow mainlining sensors… license shenanigans are a pain.
I feel kinda trapped into iOS. i have a whole ecosystem I’ve been invested in for ages. Plus if I leave my wife will crucify me. also bought this expensive ass phone and that’s it for now.
That’s precisely why I’ve been avoiding Apple for decades.
Well yeah that’s Apple’s whole shtick, making anything only compatible with their own ecosystem with as much lock-in as possible. It’s a genuinely drug dealer-like approach, they’ve even got “the first one’s free” with cheap Ipads and Neo.
What, Apple forbid developers to have their apps on multiple platforms?
By the time they’re done with the app publication process they’re bankrupted
and forced to charge app fees and subscriptions to update the app, every time apple decides to add some unnecessary control or UI change. all for apple can collect a portion on all those tasty fees.
WE FUCKING WARNED YOU
Bud I’ve been doin my best I don’t need this.
No you don’t!
Yeah, you’re good. Some people are just bad at expressing themselves.
We all understand the systems that they use to tie you into their walled garden.
Escaping takes time and money now (and it isn’t like PC hardware is cheap currently…). You can still get a cheap tower from whatever marketplace/craiglist service is popular where you live and setup a Linux server and do things that are compatible with your existing devices like pi-hole, Jellyfin, etc.
I know a lot of programmers and sysadmins that use Apple laptops to interface with their Linux backend.
Stop shaming people for changing their mind or coming around to what you’ve been saying with this bullshit. BE more WELCOMING!
"I know everyone warned me walking in lava was a bad idea. but my wife, who is addicted to tiktok and lives beyond her means constantly, Insisted it’s amazing. the best new trend. now I’m locked in…
litterally, I’m locked in, the hospital won’t let me leave as I have no legs. I’m stuck… I don’t know what to do. ~ Sent from a iPhone"
yes, please shame. shame is effective tool. it’s the same tool that got people into using apple ecosystems in the first place.
build up enough frustration, they will download their data to file, sell their devices and jump ship. while telling their wife to “please think beyond a check mark, or will I have to bail you out of jail when your smashing TVs in the shops because of a tiktok trend telling you to”.
it’s hard to switch and go against the flow. the longer you wait, the harder it gets. till one day, you cannot leave at all.
(most of this is a joke)
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I have been hating on macs since the ipod took off, for the same reasons people are mad at enshittification and lack of control over your own hardware.
No one listened, and here we are.
This is the first I’ve heard you say anything on the topic, hmm curious
You must not have dug very deep into my post history
Edit : iBought rEceipts
https://lemmy.world/search?q=ipod&type=All&listingType=All&creatorId=531839&page=1&sort=TopAll&titleOnly=false
You may not believe this, but I don’t spend my time reading the post history of strangers.
I take ONE DAY away from this gods-forsaken website…
The difference with Linux is that instead of investing money into your ecosystem, you invest your time. What is worth more to you?
Oh I use Linux on my computer, phone is a different story.
with Linux, you invest your time once. with apple, android and M$ you invest your time, and your money after every patch and change.
every new subscription fee, every added bug that’s actually a “feature”, every forced “upsell” for a “feature” they once offered but removed to put it behind a paywall, shove AI into it and host it from a “cloud” server 2000km away.
I think people interpreted my comment differently than I expected. Most people are Linux users because they like tinkering with their computer. That takes time. Getting all your devices/accessories/accounts working on Linux that used to work on other OSes takes time because they probably don’t have 1st party support. Otherwise you can use Android or Apple or whatever and just take what you get with less tinkering.
I’ve been using the same pro Windows license that I got for free in college and have never paid Microsoft a dime. I don’t know of any forced subscription fees. Paying for more cloud storage, etc. is a shitty practice but certainly not unique to MS.
what year do you think it is?
I am using my VR headset playing half-life alyx, while using my premium Logitech mouse, Elgato stream deck and streaming to YouTube.
nothing has any issues. all of my messaging services have apps and just work “out of the box”. setup took me maybe 20 minutes. most of it was just going to my phone for 2fa.
only time this is ever a issue is obscure, windows only applications that use special hardware authentication like some old CAD software. or some silly editing software like Adobe cloud who intentionally block Linux. (also older adobe software is better anyways and works. Linux alternatives exist and work equally as good.)
I remember how it was 5 & 10 years ago. struggling at each step. but it’s not the case today. on the rare occasion I need to spend time diagnosing something, it’s usually because the company behind it did something disgusting, that makes me want to stop using their services anyways.
it’s rarely ever hardware or software that doesn’t use online services.
Just two years ago I switched back from popos to Windows for HDR (no mainline support at the time), Logitech gaming mouse/keyboard support (basic m/k functionality worked but the programmable keys were spotty), motherboard temperature monitoring SW (motherboard too new to get reliable values), and occasional instability or weird rendering in gaming (Nvidia).
Linux works great for some scenarios. Development in Linux is great. But it depends on your use cases.
one of the things I’ve been happy about in the last 24mo, is the HDR and NVIDIA support. until last year I was still using my old 2070 (non super) as I was waiting to upgrade.
that became more and more rock solid on the open NVIDIA driver.
when KDE put HDR into stable and then proton got HDR. now Firefox and Chrome. I’ve been in bliss. I don’t even get this good of HDR support on windows and I still have that on a secure NVME for work lol
there is 2 apps for modifying Logitech kbd controls. I don’t use either, but I would take a look at some wikis if you try again. personally I just avoid logi for anything but mice and webcams. also avoid Razr for anything, backdoors in their drivers are just plain stupid.
motherboard sensors I can get, I have a issue with mine with lmsensors, I’m a longtime Linux user so I can navigate to fix that with some dkms kernel modules… but I totally get how and why this would be a issue and full blame lmsensors for being too bloody slow mainlining sensors… license shenanigans are a pain.