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  • Kynsey@lemmy.ml
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    12 hours ago

    Bit outdated map. Those NATO bases in the Persion Gulf should be erased. Somebody blew them up lol. Also the US pulled out of Afghanistan so that one too. Man the US not doing too hot these last few years is it? ☺️

  • Fish Face@ioc.exchangeBanned from community
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    @jankforlife We can tell Russia wants war because they launched a war?

    Post faster and you might avoid getting sent to the frontline! Go! Go!!!

    • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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      It was the west that backed a Banderite coup in 2014, sparking the Ukrainian Civil War. NATO has been encircling Russia for the greater part of a century at this point.

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        @Cowbee oh yeah, I remember seeing all the foreign agents in Ukraine in 2014! Except they were all Russians who were “on holiday” or “got lost”… and they had uniforms and rifles… then they faked a referendum and started nibbling bits of the country. Then they fucking shot down a passenger jet.

        The only reason Russia doesn’t like being “encircled” by NATO is because they want to be able to bully their neighbours, and they can’t do that if those neighbours are in a defensive pact. That’s why Russia is so dead set against Ukraine being in the EU or NATO - how can it extort Ukraine if re-invasion is no longer a credible threat?!

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          The west admitted to helping the Banderites overthrow the democratically elected president of Ukraine, and said Banderites started ethnically repressing Russians living in Eastern Ukraine.

          As for NATO, NATO is an inter-imperialist anti-revolutionary coalition force. It’s “defensive” like the IDF is. The soviets weren’t a threat to Western Europe, and neither is the Russian Federation, yet the imperialists in Europe and the US needed to contain socialism to prevent it from spreading and threatening their super-profits.

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            @Cowbee TASS told you that, did it? I’m very glad that Russia is no threat to western Europe (except for assassinations, cyber warfare, and mysterious drone incursions). I’m sure that will remain true after they’ve finished being no threat to eastern Europe.

            I’m off from this thread now because I don’t want to give you any more credit towards your Lada.

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              Nice racism on your part, very western of you. Sorry, but I’m a westerner too, and much of this has already been admitted by western press.

              Misc. Sources
              • The Budapest Memorandum: The Fake Narrative Supporting a Long War in Ukraine https://glenndiesen.substack.com/p/the-budapest-memorandum-the-fake
              • 2022 Politico Fiona Hill interview https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/02/28/world-war-iii-already-there-00012340
              • Security dilemma https://www.compactmag.com/article/reality-is-winning-the-ukraine-narrative-war/
              • An article from August 2021 advocating inflicting a military defeat on Russia in Ukraine to subjugate it and draw it away from China https://nationalinterest.org/feature/strategy-avoiding-two-front-war-192137
              • The Hill admits facts about Ukraine https://thehill.com/opinion/5198022-ukraine-conflict-disinformation/
              • history https://consortiumnews.com/2025/02/25/ukraine-timeline-tells-the-tale/
              • overview of the conflict https://www.councilestatemedia.uk/p/here-is-everything-that-neoliberals
              • great laying out of how things started https://consortiumnews.com/2025/02/23/yes-ukraine-started-the-war/
              • CIA https://abcnews.go.com/International/cia-helped-rebuild-ukraine-intelligence-russia-invasion/story?id=116909361
              • Why is Ukraine the West’s Fault? Featuring John Mearsheimer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4
              • An important piece that reveals Washington, via CIA paramilitaries, has been fighting a proxy war against Russia in the Donbas since, it’s implied, 2014. https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-secret-cia-training-program-in-ukraine-helped-kyiv-prepare-for-russian-invasion-090052743.html
              • War crimes of the armed forces and security forces of Ukraine https://www.osce.org/files/f/documents/e/7/233896.pdf
              • Accounts from the Ukrainian SBU’s torture prison reveal Zelensky’s plot to assassinate exiled opposition figure and leading journalist Anatoly Shariy https://www.mintpressnews.com/volodymyr-zelensky-secret-police-hunted-down-opposition-anatoly-shariy/280200/
              • NYT coup coverage with CIA involvement https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/25/world/europe/cia-ukraine-intelligence-russia-war.html
              • Both Zelensky and Azov are funded by Ukrainian billionaire Ihor Kolomoisky https://www.thedailybeast.com/billionaire-ukrainian-oligarch-ihor-kolomoisky-under-investigation-by-fbi
              • The Maidan Massacre Trial and Investigation Revelations: Implications for the Ukraine-Russia War and Relations https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4440100
              • Ukraine after maidan https://www.osw.waw.pl/en/publikacje/osw-commentary/2017-04-05/stable-crisis-ukraines-economy-three-years-after-euromaidan
              • RAND on extending Russia https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html

              NATO expansion

              • not one inch east declassified https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/document/16116-document-05-memorandum-conversation-between

              • Documents reveal Clinton forced Yeltsin into signing NATO-Russia pact https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/documents-reveal-clinton-forced-yeltsin-into-signing-nato-russia-pact/

              In May 1990 speech Secretary General Manfred Wörner said “The very fact that we are ready not to deploy NATO troops beyond the territory of the Federal Republic gives the Soviet Union firm security guarantees.”

              This shows 2 things:

              1. As we already knew NATO had told the Soviet Union although that it would not move further East than East Germany
              2. They understood full well that NATO moving East was seen as threatening by USSR given the promise not to do so was a “security guarantee” for them.

              https://www.nato.int/docu/speech/1990/s900517a_e.htm

              fascism

              • origins of slava ukraini https://web.archive.org/web/20200926092831/https://georgetownsecuritystudiesreview.org/2018/10/22/glory-to-ukraine-the-de-glorified-truth-of-ukrainian-nationalist-policy/
              • Ukrainian neo-Nazi C14, known for racist and homophobic attacks, gets public funding for ‘patriotic education’ https://khpg.org/en/1528928862
              • https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30414955
              • https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28329329
              • https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/2021-05-04/ty-article/.premium/ukrainian-official-changes-tune-on-unacceptable-march-honoring-ss-unit/0000017f-e0e2-d7b2-a77f-e3e7ee990000 (https://archive.ph/ckwv4)
              • https://www.ft.com/content/7191ec30-9677-423d-873c-e72b64725c2d
              • https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/on-the-influence-of-neo-nazism-in-ukraine/
              • https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/
              • https://gordonhahn.com/2015/05/02/ukraines-neo-fascist-right-sector-claims-responsibility-again-for-2-may-2014-terrorist-pogrom/
              • http://www.errc.org/news/anti-roma-pogroms-in-ukraine-on-c14-and-tolerating-terror

              maidan coup

              • Reuters, 2014: Leaked audio reveals embarrassing U.S. exchange on Ukraine, EU https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSBREA151VA/
              • Leaked recording between Nuland and Pyatt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoW75J5bnnE | transcript
              • Counterpunch, 2014: US Imperialism and the Ukraine Coup https://www.counterpunch.org/2014/03/10/us-imperialism-and-the-ukraine-coup/
              • Consortium News, 2015: The Mess That Nuland Made https://consortiumnews.com/2022/02/26/robert-parry-the-mess-that-nuland-made/
              • Monthly Review Online, 2021: The Maidan massacre in Ukraine: revelations from trials and investigations https://mronline.org/2021/12/11/the-maidan-massacre-in-ukraine/
              • Maidan coup thread https://archive.ph/BAxYc
              • Coup details https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/

              war crimes

              • https://www.ohchr.org/en/documents/country-reports/40th-periodic-report-human-rights-situation-ukraine-treatment-prisoners
              • https://www.npr.org/2023/01/31/1152743054/human-rights-watch-ukraine-landmines
              • CNN coverage of Donbas in 2014 https://xcancel.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296
              • UN finds no genocide https://news.yahoo.com/un-commission-fails-evidence-russias-160057021.html
              • https://mronline.org/2023/07/30/russia-donbass-and-the-reality-of-the-conflict-in-ukraine/
              • Stoltenberg admits NATO was in Ukraine since 2014 https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_211698.htm
              • https://www.kanekoa.news/p/osce-reports-reveal-ukraine-started
              • HRW https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/10/20/ukraine-widespread-use-cluster-munitions
              • Donbas documentary 2016 https://youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs
              • clip from the doc https://odysee.com/@justsomeclips:2/trade-union-burning-2014:8
              • Ukraine in Donbas https://ingaza.wordpress.com/2022/08/10/what-ive-seen-of-ukraines-war-crimes-against-civilians-in-the-donbass-over-the-years/
              • https://thegrayzone.com/2023/09/06/ukraines-arms-supplier-maidan-massacre/
              • Poroshenko https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHWHqj8g7Bk

              negotiations

              • https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/05/5/7344206/
              • https://geopoliticaleconomy.com/2022/09/03/west-peace-proposal-ukraine-russia/
              • https://peoplesdispatch.org/2022/10/25/the-west-must-stop-blocking-negotiations-between-ukraine-and-russia/
              • https://braveneweurope.com/michael-von-der-schulenburg-hajo-funke-harald-kujat-peace-for-ukraine
              • https://mronline.org/2023/12/07/west-sabotaged-ukraine-peace-deal-with-russia-admit-zelensky-official-and-germanys-ex-leader/
              • https://www.aaronmate.net/p/ukraines-top-negotiator-confirms
              • https://media.mas.to/media_attachments/files/113/107/658/870/477/437/original/3a02f12a005a503b.mp4
              • Nuland admitting stopping negotiations https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiS2dg_atfc

              misc sources

              • https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/anatomy-of-a-coup-how-cia-front-laid
              • https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2022/11/18/nato-expansion-and-the-origins-of-russias-invasion-of-ukraine/
              • https://nationalinterest.org/feature/causes-and-consequences-ukraine-crisis-203182
              • https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/neo-nazis-far-right-ukraine/
              • https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/01/19/ukraine-russia-nato-crisis-liberal-illusions/
              • https://www.researchgate.net/publication/299383810_The_Separatist_War_in_Donbas_A_Violent_Break-up_of_Ukraine
              • https://jacobinmag.com/2022/02/maidan-protests-neo-nazis-russia-nato-crimea
              • https://www.internationalmagz.com/articles/conversation-with-dmitri-kovalevich
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          yes wholeshome defensive pact that bombed yugoslavia 😍😍😍😍

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            @gary_host_laptop that’s a good point, Russia should be worried by that as it set a precedent for NATO bombing genocidal regimes.

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              mask off moment, nazi piece of shit

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