• PatMustard@feddit.uk
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    11 months ago

    If you have two potential opponents, a slightly crazy one and a really crazy one, and you think you’re more likely to be able to beat the really crazy one then it’s a calculated risk to try and help the really crazy one beat the slightly crazy one for you. Your gamble doesn’t pay off if suddenly the really crazy one beats you though.

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      11 months ago

      Not only that, the article states that they’ve only succeeded 4 out of 13 times getting the really crazy one nominated. So they’re playing with fire and wasting millions.

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        11 months ago

        First of all, define “conducting”, second of all, you cannot seriously tell me you believe that Trump, if elected, will stop funneling arms to Gaza

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          Conducting as in actively engaged in supplying Israel with weapons used to commit the genocide, running political cover for Israel at the UN by doing vetoes of ceasefire resolutions, and attacking Yemen for interdicting shipping with Israel. I imagine that Trump will continue largely the same policies, but that just shows that both parties are genocidal fascists.

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            11 months ago

            If it’s all the same to you, then, I’ll vote for the candidate that isn’t saying he wants to bring the fascism to our side of the pond. I’m not remotely condoning the genocide in Israel, dgmw, but given the choice between mass death over there, and mass death over there and mass deportations and anti-human rights laws back home, I’ll go with the first option.

            I hate Joe Biden as much as the next leftist, and I am sincerely begging everyone reading this to vote for someone else in the Democratic primary, but if it comes down to Biden or Trump, please, please tell me that you will vote for Biden instead of staying home

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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              11 months ago

              Vote for whatever flavor of fascism that you feel fits you best. I’m not stopping you. Meanwhile, I’m not an American and I’m just watching your shithole country tear itself apart from the outside.

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                11 months ago

                I’m not sure there’s anything I can do in this situation that would cause you not to call me a fascist. If that’s your position, find a different position.

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                  11 months ago

                  If you think that voting for one fascist over the other makes you a good person then maybe take a bit time to think about your morals. Unlike you, I don’t need to do mental gymnastics to justify supporting fascists.

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                    11 months ago

                    You’re right. Instead of voting for either candidate I should just… what? Move to whatever country you live in? Worse, stay home and stick it to both candidates by showing them I’d be okay with either one?

                    There are some really stupid liberal takes out there, but “voting for either one makes you complicit in fascism” is by far the stupidest.