cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/1874605
A 17-year-old from Nebraska and her mother are facing criminal charges including performing an illegal abortion and concealing a dead body after police obtained the pair’s private chat history from Facebook, court documents published by Motherboard show.
Aside from any moral or political views, it amuses me when people do criminal acts and fail to realize police can inspect personal data like text messages, email, and social media. I think people smart enough to realize that are smart enough to avoid committing a crime in the first place. Though there are smart criminals that get away with it, you just don’t hear about them because they don’t get caught. In any case I tend to think being stupid is prerequisite to being a criminal.
The only crime here is the crime against humanity of taking away a person’s agency over their own body
Yeah it’s horrible for innocent people to be deprived of life against their own will
Wow what a brave person arguing for the rights of those who can’t speak for themselves! How do you know what the fetus wants?
I can’t think of a single organism that doesn’t have a survival instinct
Good job victim blaming dude. This mother and daughter did absolutely nothing wrong here.
What? They had 20 weeks to do this properly with medical supervision but waited to do shit until week 28 of pregnancy, then most importantly broke rule #1: Don’t talk to the fucking police. They admitted to the police that they planned it using FB messenger. Whether the police got the DMs isn’t as relevant as the fact that when they were questioned they admitted it.
You’re still victim blaming.
The victim in question openly stated they wanted an abortion at 28 weeks so they could wear jeans again.
Please stop using the phrase “victim blaming” to abrogate the necessity for critical thought.
This isn’t some “she shouldn’t have dressed like a slut” situation.
At some point people need to be held accountable to some absolute minimum level of personal responsibility.
Let’s be honest here.
How long do you think that child would last being parented by someone who wanted their child aborted so they could wear their jeans again.
Abortions should be easily available to any and all women, in every state.
I don’t agree with their decision making length, but if abortion wasnt such a fucking touchy subject, the woman probably would have done so as soon as she found out.
Her body, her choice.
Men and politics need to get the fuck out of the way.
She literally had 20 weeks to do it legally with no problems.
And she didn’t. And mostly men around america make it a massive political issue. I’m not condoning the length of time it took her to decide.
But I’m also not conding your response saying she had x amount of time, avoiding my inquiry about the ability to not be a good parent. What’s worse? A small amount of time for a fetus, or a lifetime when the kid boils to death in the car cause mommy wanted to go shopping?
Quit wishing misery on birthed children all in the name of a life. It doesn’t work that way.
If it was her body her choice, and she had education about it, or possibly free access to birth control, this might not have been a story. Sadly, it seems America is walking backwards with women’s reproductive rights.
I’m not going to get worked up about a woman aborting her fetus for whatever reason. Make all other options more attainable and then it’s a conversation to have, but not really. If I found out my wife would have a higher than average statistical chance of dying while giving birth, she could make her choice. My preference would be, let’s just try for another and hope it doesn’t put her life at more risk.
This isn’t the case here, but how about we throw pitchforks at the penis that impregnated this young woman? It does take 2.
Umm an abortion at 28 weeks is illegal almost everywhere in the world dude, except in extreme circumstances like safety of the mother. Many EU countries limit abortion to first 12 weeks or so.
There are hundreds of possible reasons for why this 17 year old did not manage to go through the abortion in time. But you really really want her to be an evil murderer who did this… For what? You really think she did this because she is just an awful human being and therefore now as punishment deserves to have to go through pregnancy and childbirth?
It is her body not yours. When you get pregnant and feel the moral obligation to go through the whole process of birthing it than you can still make this decision. But it’s not yours to make or judge about because it’s the actual already living body of another person.