• hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    10 months ago

    Putin has been the driving force in expanding NATO. Literally none would care if we didn’t have to worry about that asshole eastern neighbor

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      10 months ago

      NATO started expanding before putin was in power. In fact Joe Biden warned the US government that expanding NATO will naturally provoke Russia.

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        10 months ago

        Literally every country in Europe joining NATO since 1991 was because of Russia. Before that, because of the Soviet Union. After Russia attacked Ukraine in 2022, Finland and Sweden seemed to join NATO because of Russia.

        Realistically, Russia has nothing to fear of NATO without provoking first. Its a defense alliance not some conspiracy to steal ruski vodka

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          10 months ago

          Yep NATO is famous for defensive wars like the Defense in Iraq, the defence in Afghanistan, the defence in Libya, the defence in Syria and all.

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          10 months ago

          And to add to that, Putin thinks that Ukraine shouldn’t exist. So naturally what do you think the government of Ukraine is going to do?

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      10 months ago

      NATO has been the driving force in expanding NATO. Literally none would care if we didn’t have to worry about that asshole western neighbor

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      10 months ago

      It’s also pretty silly because there are two NATO member nations closer to Moscow than Ukraine.

      But hey, I can’t imagine why the people of all these democratic nations keep voting to join a mutual defense pact. It can’t be because of anything to do with fear of being invaded by the unstable dictator next door, after all, we know the world only exists of the US and Russia and no other people could possibly have a voice in their local government or matter in any way.