• Auzy@beehaw.org
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    9 months ago

    So tired of seeing these posts.

    Nobody worth listening to is complaining about creating an account on GitHub. Ubuntu brainstorm was a huge success and you had to create an account for that too

    It literally takes 30s.

    And github has a hugely comprehensive API that allows developers to easily move if that want to.

    If Microsoft Open sourced the backend, the reality is, nobody would look at the code, and everyone would still use GitHub because it’s reliable. Vs code is open source, and I’m willing to bet community contributions are limited

    And open sourcing the backend just means Oracle will take the code, and set up their own server for marginally cheaper and make GitHub worse… That’s what they did with red hat

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      9 months ago

      What kind of shill is this, advocating for NOT open-sourcing the code?

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        There is a massive GitHub API which you probably already aren’t using. And now you want them to release the source code which you also won’t look at?

        If they open source the code, what contributions would you make? How many contributions have you made to the Lemmy code? How many with vs code?

        How would it benefit open source projects given that GitHub hosting is free for open source? How would it benefit GitHub?

        Would you host your own GitHub repo when you can host it for free (which it will be for open source) on GitHub or other services anyway

        Some projects don’t really benefit from open source.

        If it’s a big thing, host your own using an open source project. Compete against GitHub.

        But calling me a shill isn’t really an effective argument. I have contributed to a few open source projects in the past and released some of my own.

        I don’t feel like forcing companies to open source their projects is the way. Open source needs to win on it’s own merits. And plenty of open source projects have (the Linux kernel as an example).

        Have you contributed anything to githubs competitors? That might be a place to start. Because at the moment, there aren’t any issues with GitHub that open sourcing would address. Microsoft don’t need the additional resources

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          9 months ago

          So many ignorant assumptions (first and main one being that I and others aren’t interested, and actively using and contributing to FLOSS forges) it’s not even worth arguing. Blocked.

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            9 months ago

            There’s a reason GitHub is the largest service lol

            You need to sell services based on their advantages rather than the politics. The reality is, github allows projects to be very easily migrated to other services anyway.

            Using something because it’s open source isn’t helpful at all if it doesn’t work with your workflow easily

            Productivity is more important to the success of open source than anything else.

            I know this, because a project of mine died because we wasted too much time on infrastructure

            Developers don’t need access to the GitHub source to do their job, and there is no advantage to anyone.

            In fact, if they distribute the code, it simply reduces the incentive for Microsoft to improve it, and the only ones who will step are, are shit companies like Oracle

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      Time isn’t the only thing you give up when creating accounts—there is the terms of service, data collection, and supporting a proprietary held by a US megocorporation service by participating on it which is not helping the change many would like to see. This also fails to mention that as a US service they must comply with US sanctions so a section of users couldn’t create accounts if they wanted.