Seriously though, don’t do violence.

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    “Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent”

    ~ Asimov

    And here we are, nailed to the fucking wall. I’m fine with expanding this “incompetence”.

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      I feel like Asimov’s statement has to be couched in some larger discussion. Taken in a vacuum, I can see some merit, but I can’t say that I completely agree with it. Incompetent in what aspect? I feel that his quote ignores intention. For some, violence isn’t something that they’re resorting to due to a failure to communicate through conflict, it is the preferred tool for the job. He comes off a little condescending and armchair intellectual-y here. I prefer the Sun Tzu quote someone mentioned earlier in the thread, “Violence is a precipitation of two sides unwilling to compromise.”

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        yeah I love Asimov but the quote is stupid. What is a slave supposed to do to it’s master? Write a strongly worded letter? Beg for others to save them?

        Violence absolutely makes sense when there’s no diplomatic solution and unfortunately quarter into the 21st century - where we should have personal robots and moon bases - that is still a pretty big issue.

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          If life was a story book probably pleed their case to a rich influence noble or seduce a bishop and have them work to slowly change society and in 70 years it works out by using the system to change things from within… end of story

          Real life: Then some dbag who likes the old ways will ruin everything and here we are going back to square one.

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      The M4A movement was absolutely incompetent if you compared it to health insurance Super PACs. It was basically a bunch unpaid volunteers, many with their own medical debt, against fully salaried lobby groups paid for with our premiums, our denied claims.

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      So like, one rough day, and I mean really rough? Sounds familiar, wait it’s coming back… dictator but only on day one - that kind of thing?