• aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    What she said wasn’t even that positive. She said that during her capture she was beaten to the point of not being able to breathe well, but after that she was looked after well and got the same food and water as the fighters/her captors, and even got shampoo.

    If a statement like this is enough to infuriate Israel, then that’s pretty telling on their side

  • Alaskaball [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    Honestly she’d be better off fleeing back into PLO or Hamas protection because she’s gonna be on some zion-fascist’s hitlist for speaking the truth on international television

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    The full truth about what happened on or after 7 October could be established by an independent investigation, something Israel is unlikely to ever permit.

    Yeah maybe they shouldn’t have kicked out Human Rights Watch. Then we might actually know what happened.

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    They’re mad because she Criticized the Israel government spending 2 billion for no extra protection.

    But the facts speak for themselves. She was beaten when she first arrived. Received medical care afterwards. Had to be released at the Egypt boarder, because Israel wasn’t negotiating with them.

    But you don’t have to take my word for it, take Israel’s.

    Israel won’t negotiate with Hamas on hostages now, will remove it from power

    October 14, 2023. Avshalom Sassoni/Flash 90

    National Security Council head Tzachi Hanegbi said on Saturday that there are no active negotiation efforts underway by Israel to repatriate the Israelis and some other foreign nationals kidnapped by Hamas last Saturday, saying “there is no way right now to have a negotiation” with the terror organization.

    I would say they are in the middle of a war, but these are some rookie mistakes for 5 billion a year.

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      I like how they say there’s no way to negotiate after several hostages have already been freed. Maybe Israel just sucks at everything but killing people who dont even have tanks.

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    Respectfully, I don’t know if, er, electronicintifada.net is exactly a good source for unbiased news on this topic. I wonder what the article says…

    Israeli propaganda officials are reportedly upset…

    It truly is a work of science to take “some government propaganda officials are reportedly upset” and somehow turn that into “The entire state of Israel is FURIOUS…”.

    Almost as if the headline was engineered to reinforce pre-existing biases or something.

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      Israel’s clamped down on more legitimate sources and is even trying to kick of Al Jazeera (which has consistently led in terms of accuracy in journalism).

      American news isn’t a good source for unbiased news either, but people still post it.

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      They arrived at the kibbutz and kidnapped us, taking us to surrounding fields,” Lifshitz recalled. “The young men beat me and hurt me and took my watch and jewelry. They were riding motorbikes and took us to the entrance of a tunnel.”

      Seems like if it were propaganda they would have omitted that. Seems legit.

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        It’s difficult to square that with posting a headline that only mentions “humane treatment”.

        I’m sure you’re smart enough to know that media bias can be expressed in a wide variety of ways. Hell, a lot of Fox News’ reporting is itself perfectly fine, but then it’ll be editorialized into painting an extremely sensational picture.

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      I honestly don’t know why people post obvious propaganda like this. It’s like they don’t even care about convincing anyone and are trying to undermine their own argument. It’s not as if you can’t find more than enough very critical coverage of Israel in reputable sources. Maybe they’re so far down the rabbit hole, they genuinely think obvious propaganda outlets are more reliable than something like reuters.

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    they allowed Yocheved Lifshitz to make a statement on a live broadcast

    Where’s a link to this video with a transcription?

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    Wait wheres The Onion link? Why is this linking to a real article? 😬

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      so why would she say she “went through hell” and got beat with sticks and bruised and stuff? if she’s just lying to protect her husband, why wouldn’t she say all bad stuff? why would she insist on shaking the Hamas guy’s hand instead of just walking past him?

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    If you were a political group taking hostages and facing severe backlash, it would be to your advantage to treat the ones you plan to release very well for PR credit. Especially after a violent massacre of innocent civilians when you badly need positive perception. Additionally, releasing older women seems like an easy choice, since society will see you as having a conscience since they are one group of weaker members.

    But this isn’t such a significant moment. The sobering reality is the elderly have less utility as hostages, so it’s no loss from the Hamas side. We also know that during her abduction the treatment wasn’t all positive. And without information on the status and treatment of the other 200, which based on human history I can assume doesn’t perfectly follow the story here, this release means very little from the larger view.