Hamad said that Palestinians are the victims of the occupation, therefore no one should blame them for the events of October 7 or anything else, adding: “Everything we do is justified.”

  • Zorque@kbin.social
    58·
    1 year ago

    Well… yeah? Ain’t no one hear saying Hamas are the good guys. Just the second part of a two-headed parasite thats attached itself to the people if Israel/Palestine.

    • stevehobbes@lemmy.world
      95·
      1 year ago

      Except there are a lot of people like the first half of the parent I replied to that have a “Israel reaped what they sowed on October 6” attitude. But somehow don’t have a similar “they have reaped what they sowed” attitude towards Gaza right now.

      Which isn’t quite right.

      No one wants to share their toys since 1917. Both sides have alternatingly done ugly things that are, to our modern sensibilities, probably war crimes and ethnic cleansing. Previously, it was just war.

      We did the same/worse things to Native Americans. Spain and Portugal did the same/worse things to the Aztecs and Incas. Britain did the same/worse things to almost everyone.

      I just don’t think either side is justified but pretending like Palestine is any more or less of a victim than Israel in this whole mess doesn’t really seem to ring true if you look at the whole history.

        • Occamsrazer@lemdro.idEnglish
          12·
          1 year ago

          But is that any worse than defaulting to the side with less power? At the end of the day if you have to side with one or the other, whoever happens to have power at the time seems like pretty arbitrary criteria. If instead Israel were the lesser power being bullied by a powerful Palestine, would you side with Israel? How about if Nazi Germany were getting bullied by Western powers, would you side with them? It wouldn’t make sense because Nazis are very obviously the bad guys. Anyway it’s not just about power.

      • Zorque@kbin.social
        21·
        1 year ago

        Knowing the cause of something does not excuse it. Just helps you better understand it, and how to prevent it in the future.

        Saying Israel’s actions have a direct relationship with Hamas activity is not supporting Hamas. Its saying their actions are antithetical to a peaceful resolution, nothing else.

      • freagle@lemmygrad.ml
        35·
        1 year ago

        How does this make any sense to you? Britain declared Palestine to be terra nullius while there were people living there. They did it so they could create a Jewish ethno state hoping they could get rid of the Jews in their country. They did it by bringing in the British army and shooting anyone who resisted.

        Israel has no legitimate claim to its existence as a state, it was created by the globe-dominating imperial colonizer at the point of a gun.

        And instead of spending the last century trying to make peace, Israel has been building an apartheid state and importing settlers from all over the world to illegally steal land from Palestinians, literally just showing up and taking over their homes, beating them, and summoning the militarized police to displace, beat, maim, and kill Palestinians.

        There is just no comparing the two sides.