/r/StarTrek founder and primary steward from 2008-2021
Currently on the board of directors for StarTrek.website
I agree! Don’t run your mouth in public then complain when someone asks you how do you know the thing you’re running your mouth about is true. If in 2034 someone who has never seen snow wants more evidence than some idiot on the Internet’s feelings on the topic then asking is totally justified.
I think it’s totally reasonable to ask for a source about a historical claim if something hasn’t been true for over a decade?
Exactly, it also means we can have different regions for different types of conversations, much like in the real world.
Why would someone who doesn’t like blocking and de-federation like “federated platforms”?
“You censored me for my opinion”
“What opinion was it?”
“…”
“What opinion was it Anakin?”
lol fair. Whats good for me is more people educated on the benefits of open source!
I actually think users who click ads are probably the ones who most need to learn about the alternatives!
Yes absolutely, I just wanted to highlight that that problem has an existing deterrent in place.
That’s what “subscribed” is for, no?
If a server is going so far as to modify their code to better enable harassment, then that is a bad server and should probably be defederated from.
Thanks I think I better understand what you’re proposing now. I’m reminded of how on reddit, mods could be added a-la-carte with only specific duties like the ability to add/remove posts, or respond to modmail.
Speaking as a former Reddit moderator myself, the main problem we faced when adding anyone who didn’t have “full control” was that those people were unlikely to feel a strong sense of independence and autonomy to do much of anything. I learned that without a sense of control over the direction of the community there is not much incentive for people to feel responsible for it’s wellbeing. We found it more sustainable to maintain a “smaller” but more dedicated core team, and swap new members in and out as needed. This also made it easier for us to stay on the same page policy-wise.
We were “only” 400K users by time I left, but I could see a system like what you’re proposing working to a degree once a community gets up into the millions.
I did read the links, and I still strongly feel that no automated mechanical system of weights and measures can outperform humans when it comes to understanding context.
It’s also, as I described, wholly unnecessary on platforms that do not allow themselves grow beyond an ability to monitor themselves.
A system like this rewards frequent shitposting over slower qualityposting. It is also easily gamed by organized bad faith groups. Imagine if this was Reddit and T_D users just gave each other a high trust score, valuing their contributions over more “organic” posts.
Human moderators (and human Admins) who understand context are the only answer. If they’re feeling overworked they need to add mods or stop growing. Big, loosely moderated instances are arguably worse for the overall ecosystem then small, bad faith ones.
this? ?
With startrek.website we’d hoped creating a Star Trek themed instance might encourage other ex-moderators to start topic-specific instances too, and it would kick off a flourishing of myriad communities run by devoted moderators, a Lemmyverse so diverse and inspiring that not even Reddit could further justify it’s own existence in the presence of such an obviously superior system.
Instead it turned out “Star Trek and Linux” was enough to satisfy nearly everyone’s tastes (both subtle and gross).
It’s a good term, but so often people use it to mean “got bad” when Cory’s definition was much more specific in regards to platforms abusing monopoly power on their users and businesses.
Yes. You do it from the “copy” of the community on your instance.
So if you’re on Lemmy.ml and want to subscribe to “c/StarTrek” on StarTrek.website, you can do it from Lemmy.ml/c/StarTrek@startrek.website
If you’re using an app you don’t have to worry about it, also there are browser extensions that simplify it too, the way I describe is without any tools.
Some of the bullshit is just kinda human nature. But it’s been interesting to compare the difference vs a place like Reddit which encouraged a lot of the toxicity in order to boost artificial “engagement”.
Yeah, a not-insubstantial portion of Lemmy users are people who were banned from Reddit and unwilling/unable to adjust behavior to different communities. Good mod/admins should alleviate this over time hopefully.