The US has never been a country that’s good or fair. It’s only very slowly gotten a little better through the sweat and blood of good people.

If we want it to get better it’s going to be a lot of difficult and painstaking work.

Also that’s kinda what China does already and it hasn’t really worked to close the wealth gap.

Lemmy probably has a disproportionate number of tech bros who make that or more, but that’s wayyy out of reach at least for most Americans.

You’re the one supporting a fascist regime, this entire discussion started because you claimed that being anti USSR is someone being pro Nazi.

The USSR was demonstrably more friendly to Hitler than the US, because it was fascist, ruled by a dictator, and had imperialist dreams of cutting up Europe with Hitler.

The US sure is imperialist and fascist and bad, the USSR was the imperialist and fascist parts of the US, dialed up to 12.

I cringe every time a tankie opens their mouth because every sentence is a nostalgia-fetishizing ultra-nationalism for Soviet fascist dictatorship.

Not even a caricature because getting your hands broken is actually still not as bad as starving to death.

Let me use an example. Let’s say you’re my partner, and it’s movie night. I give you a choice between two movies: Star Wars, and Harry Potter. However, if you choose Harry Potter for movie night, I will actually break both your hands with a sledgehammer.

I say I’m giving you a choice, but do you actually have a fair choice?

Man you really try so hard to distract from the fact that Stalin was a fascist who was friendly with Hilter, up until the moment Hitler betrayed him.

Siding with the Nazis for 2 years is 2 years too long.

Could you explain how this is relevant to you being the most pro-fascism person in this thread?

Like I said, fuck the Nazis, and fuck the people who cooperate with Nazis ahem Stalin.

You gotta self reflect my brother in Christ, because you’re the most pro-fascist person in this entire thread.

Also is someone who thinks that Stalin killed Hilter really qualified to know if a youtube entertainer is a historian.

Fuck Nazi’s, and fuck people who cooperate with Nazi’s, like the USSR.

Where did he get his history degree?

The video made by a social media influencer, streamer, and entertainer, not a historian? That video?

Are we just going to ignore the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, wherein Stalin let Hitler invade Poland as long as he got half of Poland, Lithuania, and Estonia?

You know what the US never did? Call Hilter and agree to a joint imperialist effort in carving up sovereign nations.

Edit:

“there is one common element in the ideology of Germany, Italy, and the Soviet Union: opposition to the capitalist democracies” or that “it seems to us rather unnatural that a socialist state would stand on the side of the western democracies”.

https://www.google.com/books/edition/Pariahs_Partners_Predators/ZliWXGydrzAC?hl=en&gbpv=0

Nazis dogwhistle opposition to the US during WW2 Germany, the one time where the US was absolutely on the right side of history.

Literally every time someone goes hard on the anti-America, they’re just ass-sore that they kicked their asses back in WW2.

Well I can take your logic and easily condemn all criticism of America as being Nazi dog whistles.

Lol where??

Socialism in principle sounds great, but most times it’s been implemented it’s suffered from the same problem as capitalism - the people with power are greedy and use their power to manipulate and oppress the populace.

This is true, the “dictatorship of the proletariat” is self-contradictory and impossible IMHO. Because as soon as a member of the proletariat is a dictator, they are now no longer a member of the proletariat.

Now you don’t need a dictator, you can enact socialist policies democratically. This is very slow and kind of difficult, because the capitalists will lobby and fight so hard against it, and you need to maintain public support.

He’s referring to post-WW2 East Germany being controlled by the USSR you absolute gonk.

Shilling for Russia is the default alt-right neo-Nazi position.

China has the potential of being the shining example of socialism, but you can’t ignore Taiwan, Hong Kong, China rewriting maps to expand its own territory, or Xi ending term limits so he can rule indefinitely.

Dunno what you mean bc there is plenty of Russian and Chinese imperialism, as though that’s somehow better than America.