There are historical examples of completely and actually socialist countries
Such as?
There are historical examples of completely and actually socialist countries
Such as?
The point about Norway wasn’t that it’s socialist (it’s not). The point was that Norway’s low rate of poverty and generous social supports come directly from parts of the economy that are publicly owned.
The notion that a country’s entire economy must be under public control otherwise it’s not Real Socialism is too idealistic. China in 1949 was a late-feudal/pre-industrial country that had just been through a century of colonial invasions and civil wars. It needed to attract capital and expertise in pretty much every field, and it needed to build an effective, modern administrative state. How was it supposed to do all of that at once, wholly through the government? The Soviets ran into the same problem and the result was the New Economic Policy, which, like China today, involved markets and some private ownership, but ultimately subjected both to real state control. You need a transitory period to go from pre-revolutionary society to whatever your vision of Real Socialism is.
For me, China is socialist because the state is ran to the benefit of the working class (see massive poverty alleviation), that state really does control the capitalist class, and China seems to be doing more of both as time goes on.
You said:
China is capitalist… It has private property on means of production, and it is defining Chinese economy just like any other capitalist one.
The response was a well-souced refutation of the idea that the Chinese economy is developing like a capitalist economy. You replied with Wikipedia. All I’m saying is that you’re not looking at this in a whole lot of detail and you might have some things to learn.
For instance, you say Nordic countries have low rates of poverty and good social supports despite private ownership of the means of production. But in reality a lot of that is due to sovereign wealth funds, like Norway’s Government Pension Fund Global, which is owned by the government and managed by a state-owned bank.
What makes you right and a bunch of people who actually live in China wrong?
Love how you respond to a bunch of information from the World Bank, NYT, and the National Bureau of Economic Research with a definition from Wikipedia.
Consider that you could learn more here.
You don’t get to keep your weapons when you surrender. It’s just not an accurate summation of the situation. The big difference between surrendering to an opponent vs. agreeing to a ceasefire is that with a ceasefire you can re-start fighting at some point.
Hezbollah surrendering without a ceasefire in Gaza
I don’t think they surrendered to anyone – they just negotiated a ceasefire between them and Israel. Bad, but they’re not off the board like Syria.
Assad won’t really be missed for anything but his compliance in transporting weapons to Lebanon.
Who knows what information Hezbollah had about the impending collapse of Syria that we didn’t have? Who knows how that impacted their ceasefire decision?
things that fall off the police radar or weren’t getting any attention
Think of all the murders that happen in large American cities that don’t get anywhere near the police attention as this one.
The worst would be getting a bunch more people killed and then still losing
I don’t understand how so many Americans buy the “North Korea is a cartoonish dictatorship” line so easily. It’s obvious that you can make up any story about it, no matter how outlandish, and the media will just print it uncritically.
It’s like a kid making up crazy stories about their cousin. The kid is full of shit half the time – you don’t believe the other half, you conclude that nothing that kid has to say about his cousin is reliable.
As a result of Yoon’s enhanced role in U.S. military strategy in Asia, the disgraced president has been the darling of the think tanks and Korea “experts” in the U.S. capital. Deputy Secretary of State Kurt Campbell has even suggested that Yoon should get a Nobel Peace Prize for putting aside Korean differences with Japan to make the trilateral alliance work.
Is there even one foreign leader the U.S. likes who is actually decent?
Yet even as the United States backs Yoon’s stance on North Korea, the enhanced ties between the Pentagon and the South Korean Army, coupled with memories of what happened in Gwangju 44 years ago, is an explosive combination. Many Koreans remember that after Chun’s coup and the slaughter in Gwangju, President Jimmy Carter directed the Pentagon to help the Korean martial law command crush the uprising by sending an aircraft carrier and advanced reconnaissance aircraft to monitor the actions of the Korean troops dispatched to the city from the Combined Forces Command. After assisting Chun to reassert military control over the country, South Korea suffered seven more years of authoritarian rule.
Even in the most generous possible reading, the South Korean government has been a straight-up U.S. puppet for much of its history.
Lmao that’s not an error, much less one that means anything.
South Korean lawmakers – who had scrambled earlier in the night to block the martial law order with a parliamentary vote
Lawmakers worked swiftly to block the martial law decree
The leader of the opposition Democratic Party, Lee Jae-myung, said the emergency martial law declaration was “unconstitutional"
“Overruled” is a fair characterization. You just don’t like the article.
The man, who admits to belonging to the Wagner Group, tells his interrogator that he and his men drove from the neighbouring Central African Republic (CAR) to Sudan in order to “overthrow the local government”. The video cannot be independently verified by Middle East Eye.
“Yes, officer, I belong to the crips and drove here to do some gang-related murders.”
Color me skeptical
Look, Biden only pardons drug offenders who are the victims of a concerted political effort to mess with their lives.
So corruption isn’t possible at all? If my town’s mayor gives millions in no-bid contracts to his cousin, that’s actually the representative of the people doing what the people want?
Sycophant.
You deliberately avoid understanding me or my position
lol
He still can, he’s not out of office for another six weeks!
Bonus question: if Biden actually cared about a potential mass deportation under Trump, how many millions of immigrants could he pardon of crossing the border unlawfully? It’s a federal crime, after all.
You talk to your wife like that?
you’re from the LARP instance
Ah yes, no one could ever have a serious issue with U.S. foreign policy
Who’s to say that’s the best length of time for a transitory period, in all countries? Why are you sure you’re right and China’s leadership is wrong? If the USSR could allow limited private control of businesses for a time and then revoke that, why can’t China?
Note that Mao himself was far from strictly opposed to private ownership of capital, at least as long as the national bourgeoisie did not seek to undermine the socialist project: