Highest risk? Death was almost guaranteed in this case.

Did you read the link you posted? It says you must have Intel 8th gen or higher AND tpm 2.0

Not just tpm 2.0

It’s not possible to see the image, when I click on the fediverse button (link to https://lemmy.thewooskeys.com/post/575941) I get a xitter-style forced signup screen

It is unrealistic that parts with that age are brand new, available in that quantity. It might happens that some distributor misplaces some box and a couple computers are old new stock after a decade, but hundreds?

Also: W11 pro OEM is 120 euro and office 365 perpetual doesn’t even exist, and if they meant office 2024 home and business is 299 euro. 120+299 exceed the listing price

Ok read the documentation: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-24h2-supported-intel-processors

Where does it say that you can use a 6th gen Intel CPU if you install a tpm chip?

The tpm is definitely not used as you can install it on a supported system, then go to the bios, disable secure boot and tpm and it still works (if the automatic “ransomware” bitlocker encryption didn’t start)

Yes ok from an accounting point of view.

But from a functional point of view?

I see how my bank teller works: they connect to a terminal server

I see how my other bank works: a VM that runs AS/400 that is acting as a terminal to their mainframe

Why they’re changing computers so often? The first one can use any PC released in the past 15 years and the second one can use any released in the past 30 years

First row of the 400 euro one

My gripe with that is that the seller is scamming inexperienced people, they think that they are buying a brand new PC while instead it’s not

(The fact that a 400 euro PC includes 600 euro of software licenses should ring a bell about the legitimacy to the buyer, though)

“NUOVO” in Capital letters means NEW

I call it ewaste because it is coming from that. Banks and corporations change computers every 3-5 years because accounting love to lease rather to buy

Those computers go to ewaste centers, then some not honest sellers take the components (that usually were left on 24/7 because in offices nobody bothers to turn off computers) and put them in brand new cases

That’s why is a scam, selling old stuff that came from an ewaste center as brand new

But indeed it you expose all the ports to internet (not just connect under nat) windows XP, you gonna get infected by blaster within 5 minutes

Windows 11 doesn’t actually need the tpm. They just check: “oh it’s Intel 6th gen, it’s trash from the last decade, sorry incompatible ewaste, buy a new one”

Intel 6th gen + tpm chip = still “incompatible”

Their marketing told us the lie “it needs tpm and secure boot” but they actually check if it has introduced to the market after 2018 or not

In those units the scammer patched the install image to install without the check. Who buys this will get a surprise when in the next months the next update comes out and refuse to install (25h1?)

Your first mistake was paying for an ad supported plan

Anyway thanks to Hollywood accounting only a few billionaires will get your money and not the people that actually worked on the movie

Guys, I found one other Microsoft claim that’s even more hilarious:

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/windows/copilotplus-claims?tabs=amd

They say that:

1. Windows 11 PCs are faster than the MacBook air M4 (with the top of the line AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 375, but only with cinebench. Because a fanless laptop like the MacBook air is perfect for run cinebench the whole day, I’m sure it won’t throttle)

2. They’re also faster than the MacBook air M3 (of course, if they were faster than M4…) of course still only with cinebench

3. And they’re faster than the MacBook air M2. Of course only with cinebench. I’m sure it’s only a coincidence that they are choosing a heavy benchmark for a fanless laptop instead of a MBP with better airflow. What’s next, comparing the result of multicore cinebench on a MacBook air wrapped in cellophane, inside a car parked in the Texan summer?

4. And that when running cinebench multicore, it’s FIVE TIMES FASTER than what you gonna get with a windows 10 PC!!! This claim was so hilarious that I had to find that test from that “reputable” third party and in the PDF they’re comparing a Lenovo Yoga Pro 7 AMD Ryzen AI 9 365 with a ThinkPad E590 Intel Core i5-8265U. Of course the Ryzen is faster in multicore benchmark, it has 20 threads vs only 8… I don’t understand why they settled on a simple Ryzen AI 9 365. Why not comparing the 8th gen i5 U series with a threadripper pro 9995x in multicore cinebench? In this way they could claim “it’s HUNDRED TIMES FASTER!!!11!”

5. And the newest copilot+ windows 11 PCs are FOUR TIMES faster in 3D gaming (the catch: only in 3d mark and only if comparing with laptops with integrated graphics)

The difference in performance from a Intel 11th gen and Intel 12th gen, with the same amount of memory and the CPU in the same class, is not measurable in daily life. The average for w10 devices is skewed to the bottom, and it’s also a comparison that doesn’t make sense. Of course a computer from ten years ago is slower. I would be surprised if it wouldn’t be like that.

They wanted to do a comparison like Apple “M1 is 4x faster than our previous Intel laptop” but at least apple says which exact benchmark uses and it’s directly compared to the previous model on sale, not a random one from a decade ago (although Apple always chooses some useless benchmark like calculating integers or other stuff that has absolutely no impact in real life but has a higher result).

Here Microsoft says “Web browsing is up to 3.2x faster” but we all know that RAM heavily influences web browsing. How much memory the chosen sample has? They don’t say it and I suspect they’re comparing 4/8gb devices vs 16/32gb devices

Same for “Ms office is up to 2x times faster” but we all know that the difference is invisible in real use. Probably the w10 sample have sata HDDs (especially that i3-6100) while the w11 sample they all have nvme pcie gen 4 x4 drives so of course they load Microsoft word much faster.

That exact page I didn’t find in English, but I found this https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/windows/windows11-performance-claims

Ah, they sold the landlord special 😞

I watched a hai video about the topic and there are some low flow toiles capable of flushing 2 pounds of poo in one flush, maybe who sold your unit didn’t know (or pretended to don’t know) that there’s a poo flushing power for each model, sold you a bad one

Revolut business is the same. Somehow you must have chrome on mobile if you want to send a bank transfer from desktop. (It opens a qr code that when scanned, only works with Google Chrome and not any other chromium browser)

As a customer I hate those “smart” address form as they don’t accept my real house number but I need to put the generic one and hope the delivery guy is smart enough to read notes