If what I read is true that does sound promising, but still leaves consumers with a number of issues.

You still need to support google to get this phone, (if part of the goal is to not support companies with questionable business practices) and while GrapheneOS does look promising I still have my doubts on the user experience.

From what I have read I believe you would need to install this OS yourself on the device. That to me is more of a workaround than a solution.

The typical user isn’t going to want to install a custom OS. This isn’t a product that is readily available to consumers to purchase through conventional means as far as I can tell. (I may be wrong on that, but it doesn’t appear that I could walk into a carrier store and purchase one ready to go).

This was exactly my point, I’m not lining up for an iPhone or an android. The lack of choice is what drives me to buy apple because when the time comes for a new phone it’s one or the other and I prefer the experience on iPhone. Really I would rather not give my money to either but there are no viable alternatives. I would not criticize anyone for buying android or apple, it’s a matter of what kind of shit sandwich do you want to eat, and it’s terrible.

I’m not saying it’s perfect, but the typical user experience is vastly superior to anything android has to offer. I’m also specifically referring to phone os. Not tablets. I really don’t like apple as a company, but user experience on apple vs android phones are like night and day.

I work in IT for a school board and yeah, the support of iPads is straight shit, so I feel your pain.

I have used a number of android phones and iPhones, and I can say that the experience on an iPhone is vastly superior to anything android has to offer. Until that changes, this problem is going to continue.

Companies can keep pumping out dogshit all they want and slapping a different coat of paint on it, at the end of the day it’s still dogshit.

Someone needs to build an OS superior to apple’s that is designed exclusively and optimized for the hardware of the phone, and it seems unlikely that will ever happen. Also that fact in and of itself is the reason iPhones are and will always have a superior user experience than anything android has to offer.

I would love to see something similar that is more secure, more privacy focused, and still has as good of a user experience as an iPhone, but this is an accessibility vs security problem.

Apple has leveraged what they once touted as a safer option because they would look after the security part on behalf of the user and twisted it into a more sinister business model (or perhaps that was always the M.O.)

I catch myself sometimes half way through someone talking about something where I was fully paying attention for the first bit of them talking and then tuning back in for the end realizing “oh fuck” but it’s the same. My mind just wanders idk even know to what. There are times though where someone asks me a follow up question and I realize I wasn’t paying attention at all beyond the start of them talking.

This happens to me quite often, I can only take in so much of what someone is saying and then my brain is like “that’s all folks!”

Thanks that worked!, I feel like I preferred the old icon though :/ I’ll get used to the new one I guess.

Thanks, I didn’t realize that. My icon still says wefwef.

Have you heard of wefwef? It’s basically Apollo for Lemmy.

Link to a Reddit post about it, quickest I could find in short order at work:

https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/14lr2n4/wefwef_is_an_apollo_like_web_app_for_lemmy/