kopper [they/them]

while i don’t have any specific opinions about this that other people haven’t addressed, i just want to flag up something;

How this could be enforced? No voting from the All and/or Local feed. Seems easy and straight forward.

this seems unenforcable. as in, you can’t really tell where someone discovered a post from. yeah you can just remove the buttons from those views clientside and it’ll probably work for the majority of cases, but alternate clients or modifications to lemmy-ui can simply put the buttons back in (or in cases of unmaintained or differently opinionated clients, just not remove the buttons at all). the backend can’t really differentiate which view a vote comes from. federation especially can’t differentiate which view a vote comes from.

What I’m more worried about are posts relating to news mainly. Where even if the immediate first level comments are fine, there are threads that get out of hand really quickly.

I agree that while posts inherently designed to be controversial may not benefit from Active considering the influences voting has (though me being on an instance that has downvotes disabled may be influencing my view here!), Active may make it significantly easier for an otherwise innocent post to devolve into a flame war.

The main excuse for this kind of algorithm seems to be around “promoting discussion”, but in my experience tech that’s intended to promote discussion does inherently promote flame wars too, as they’re extremely difficult if not impossible to distinguish without a human in the loop. I’ve attempted to write something about this on the microblogging side of the fedi, directly influenced by this post

I’m just throwing this out there but having the default sort incentivize comments seems like it’d highlight posts meant to cause flame wars… Is that what we want out of this platform?

(talking about microblog fedi here, Lemmy/threadiverse is it’s own thing)

don’t do hashtags. hashtags (especially common ones like #memes) are overrun by repost bots and low quality garbage.

the trick is to be on a small-to-medium instance you vibe with (1k active users seems to be the sweet spot. anything larger than 2k I’d avoid. do NOT join any flagship instances like mastodon.social), follow fun people from your local timeline, and see who they boost. and follow up the boost chain until your timeline is sufficiently fun.

git commit -m $(date)

I’m mildly worried I know (as in, am aware of their existence, thankfully not having interacted with them) who you’re talking about

I imagine infinite scrolling would be much easier on the server (and overall less janky with less repeated posts) and therefore more likely to be added after 0.19.x due to the switch to cursor-based pagination. That said Lemmy devs may or may not be against something like that on the default frontend due to well being reasons (unsure on where they stand on this tbf)

That said, custom frontends do exist and I assume there has to be at least one out there that already supports it (and isn’t mobile only)

I imagine the most “ideal” outcome would be “whatever link the default webui shows as the fediverse link (the colorful icon on all posts / comments)”, as that’s the “canonical” link (technically, the ActivityPub ID, which is I think required to be a link as per the spec) of that specific post or comment.

It’d be the most accurate in terms of visibility (could be deleted by OP and the delete might not reach your instance), latest edits, vote counts, and replies for that specific thing, that said it’s definitely not as convenient as just copying the link in your URL bar and pasting it to wherever.

Also depending on the exact software running on an instance, that link may not point to a human readable page, but that’s a pretty rare edge case that even the most incomplete real life implementations I’m aware of handle reasonably well (even if it ends up doing a redirect)

I remember looking into it back when lemmynsfw was brand new and flooding all with un-nsfw’d porn and the devs seemed to be explicitly against giving mods the ability to edit posts, which NSFW tagging kinda falls under.

It should. However moving things around is difficult and will cause synchronization issues.

In most cases starting from scratch on a fresh subdomain is the best solution. ActivityPub is really finicky unfortunately.

You may be able to use images on the sidebar (not sure on the exact limitations of the sidebar markdown parser, but custom emoji work and they are treated as inline images)

including calligraphic alphanumerics.

Which will not cooperate with screen readers. Consider sticking with emoji.

To be fair join-lemmy also advertises the software as “blazing fast” with “powerful mod tools” and if there are two phrases I’d associate with Lemmy those aren’t it.

(OK compared to Mastodon Lemmy is blazing fast, but that’s cheating considering of how slow Mastodon is)

A better idea would be a generic content warning system replacing the existing NSFW toggle. This would not only improve compatibility with the rest of the fediverse (which does use support CWs) but also give you way more filtering options than just “safe, tits or gore”.

CWs should be applicable to both communities and individual posts, and would “stack” on top of each other. (Each post would “inherit” the CWs of it’s community.)

kbin.social is getting too big with an admin that’s asleep on the wheel (just like every other flagship instance on fedi (yes even mastodon.social)) and kbin the software is still too immature and is in the same “putting out fires” mode lemmy was in back in 0.17.x “peak reddit migration” era

grass? or Grass?

i’d say 6-7k users would be a better figure, but i do agree with your overall point. anything above 10-15k just hurts the health of the federation in the long term and ends up creating “untouchable” servers. even worse on lemmy where communities are also bound to instances.

though now that i’m thinking about it, a better metric would be active users rather than total users

tbf compared to masto/“microblog fediverse”, the “threadiverse” barely had any culture beyond a few exceptions so this place is almost guaranteed to get “redditized” if you’re not on an instance that moderates with the same strictness you’d expect on masto (partly why i picked this instance among others)

i’ve seen my fair share of freeze-peach warriors in the comments here. all you have to do is to drop the word “defederation” anywhere and they’re all raging to “debate”

Izzy directly sends over the APKs from GitHub releases. F-Droid does their own builds which is partly why they’re so slow to update.

And of course, let’s not forget this as well: https://github.com/radian-software/TerrariaClone/issues/2