Unfortunately for all of us, America doesn’t leave us alone. We’re all going to face the consequences of Trump in one form or the other. Americans are just privileged enough to fuck yourselves over. The rest of us just have to deal with your shitty political system, without any say in the matter. Democrats kept parroting a hollow and tone deaf line of being better than Trump and lost the most winnable election. That’s how bad it is. Genocide is too big of an ask of the American government evidently.

I’m not American. I didn’t choose anything. America chose Trump. They chose Trump because Harris led a shit campaign where she managed to lose to the most despicable fascist wanna-be dictator we’ve ever seen, wrapped in an incredibly hated platform (Project 2025), and while campaigning with the most disliked VP in American history. That’s my point. That’s been my point all along. Democrats ran a shitty campaign by simply thinking that they’re entitled to votes simply because of how bad Trump is. That’s not how elections work. Anyone with two brain cells knows this. She lost the Arab-American vote because she not only ignored them but actively silenced them. This caused her to lose Michigan, and potentially even Arizona, Georgia and Pennsylvania because of this.

Premise 1 is factually incorrect. Saying Harris would have worked towards a ceasefire is not a logical conclusion given her refusal to admit it’s a genocide, her unwavering support for Israel, and her work as a VP in the current administration. I’ll freely admit that Trump is worse in every other policy. But on the topic of Palestine they are the same. Both offer Israel unconditional and unwavering support and protection. Just one openly admits it. Until you are actually capable of answering the above question of explaining why you believe the Democrats have been holding Israel back for the past 14 months or how the Arabs would have voted for Harris if it meant they could save the Palestinians then this fact holds true. And before you repeat the line of “That was Biden this is Harris”. She could have distanced from Biden’s stance on this but she didn’t. She made it very clear that she will continue what Biden started.

Premise 2 is an incredibly cruel and callous argument to make to people who are losing loved ones to the conflict. To paint you a picture of what I mean there is a woman in Minnesota who lost over 40 family members to a single Israeli airstrike. Just one. And this happens daily in Gaza, the West Bank, and Lebanon. And then her Governor, Tim Walz, went on the National VP debate and the only comment he could muster about Israel was that he supports Israels right to expand it’s borders. And you expected these people to vote for Harris/Walz? With their unwavering support of Israel? This is not an idea that is rooted in reality. We aren’t talking about a diplomatic argument, some immigration policy, or some foreign trade agreement. We are talking about the complete eradication of an entire nation through violent means.

Premise 3 is irrelevant. No one expected anyone else other than Trump or Harris to win. Like I said above, Arabs just wanted to send a big fuck you to the Democrats for making it seem that not arming a genocide of their people is too big an ask.

No I’m not. Harris is part of the Biden administration and she’s made it clear she wasn’t going to deviate from the current position that America currently has under Biden’s leadership. That means the same empty platitudes along with unwavering support for Israel no matter how many escalations Israel has. She didn’t strive for a ceasefire. That’s just meaningless rhetoric given she had no actual plan for it and coupled it with being insistent that “Israel has a right to defend itself” or Walz’s “I support Israel’s right to expand it’s borders” as they perform the wholesale slaughter of an entire ethnicity and culture.

On top of this, this was Kamala’s weakest policy, and she still clearly wins out. You are not only willing to throw the Palestinians under the bus, you’re willing to throw trans people, women, and immigrants under the bus too.

I acknowledged how bad Trump is in my above comment. I know what Trump means for a lot of minorities in America as well as the international political stage. I wasn’t talking about endorsing Trump. I said that the whole strategy of getting the Arab-American vote by saying “Trump is worse” was a very shitty strategy that backfired horribly. It’s common knowledge that a political candidate is not entitled by a vote simply by being the better of two options. You have to make people want to vote for you. As evidenced by the results of the elections. If she wanted the Arab-American vote, a key demographic in a critical swing state, she should have worked towards it. Not simply say “Well Trump is worse, so vote for me”, as she supports the slaughter of their people. It’s just an incredibly tone deaf and cruel thing to say to a population that is facing what they are facing.

Tell me something. What in the past 14 months has led you to believe that Biden was holding Israel back?

Kamala said that she wanted a cease fire

Yes, just like Biden. And we all saw what he actually wanted, didn’t we?

Voting third party is not a “fuck you” to anyone. No one who matters gives a shit about a third party vote.

Yes it is. It’s a big fuck you to the Democrats who campaigned on thinking people would vote for them automatically because they’re not Trump. That failed epically.

If there was a chance to save them don’t you think the Arabs in America would have taken it? It’s not like they’re any strangers to voting for the lesser of two evils on this topic. Democrats were insistent on letting Israel have a free reign just like Republicans would. So they decided to say a big fuck you to the electoral system and vote third party.

This is as reductive as when people say religion is what causes all wars. Humans cause war. Race, religion, nationality, money, power,etc. All of them,and more, have been used as pretexts for war.

No doubt he would be on a lot of topics. My comment was just mocking all those people that kept insisting people who cared about Palestine (primarily Arab-Americans) should vote for Harris simply because Trump is worse. It was such a hollow and shitty endorsement given all the escalations Israel has gotten away with the past 14 months.

Something something Trump is worse.

Well people fleeing Syria is a pretty good sign that they fear for their safety.

That’s fair. I’d imagine it’s from a variety of reasons given the state of Syria right now but I won’t deny there is probably truth to these words.

Meanwhile, there are now lots of posts on social media showing all the usual ISIS horrors unfolding in Syria such as beheadings, hangings, and so on. The worst kinds of terrorists have taken over the country, and they do the things they always do.

I don’t have social media so that might explain why I’m out of the loop. The new government says something and HTS does another. Seems HTS isn’t as completely “reformed” from their Al-Nusra/Al-Qaeda days as they would like you to believe.

It’s crossed my mind as well to be perfectly honest. But I haven’t read anything to say definitively. Do you know anything that I’m missing?

While it seems as if HTS has been saying the right things in terms of treatment of minorities time will tell if they actually mean it or if they are just saying the right things for now. Their history certainly doesn’t do them any favors in this situation.

Also, I thought this was interesting.

The Alawite community - from which the Assad family originates - are the largest Muslim minority group in Syria, making up roughly 10 per cent of the population and situated largely in Syria’s coastal provinces. The Assad family has long relied on the Alawites, who have filled many senior positions in the regime, since they came to power in 1970.

Many reports suggested that they were disproportionately targeted for conscription by the Assad regime in earlier years of the war, with conflicting estimates all agreeing that at least tens of thousands of Alawites have been killed in the conflict.

While taking up a disproportionate number of positions in key regime positions, Alawite communities are also some of the poorest in Syria. One Alawi dentist told The Times that it was comparable to an “army of slaves”, with many living in the belief that “if we leave him [Assad], we will die”.

I had no idea the disparity was that big for Alawites. I had always assumed the because of Assad they were more privileged as a whole.

The rational is the old agreement to respect rhe borders is null and void due to the coup by the rebels. Syria is a stateless nation in their eyes and they see it as free real estate, just like you said.

They already had the Golan Heights. They just yoinked a buffer zone for their buffer zone.

The bounty is still on his head, no?

A promising development for the Shia in the region. I remember this was a big reason Hezbolllah stepped into Syria in 2012 given the importance of the shrine.

Just goes to show what these fuckers think of human life. Saying to countries like Israel “we’re on the same side”.

Holy backpedaling. Looks like someone had a stern talking to.

Oh I see. Sorry, I misunderstood your comment.

Most of them have come out and said they’ll accept the rule of law and arrest him. I think Germany was the only exception, though I’m not sure if there are others.