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  • the claim that the famine was intentional is extremely dubious at best.

    I’m splitting this to a separate comment because it’s a different topic.

    Who said that it was intentionally made famine with the goal of killing people? And where?

    Are you hung on the original commenter calling it “mass murder” and your point is that it wasn’t premeditated?


  • The famine was the produce of a great number of different factors, inefficient and backward agricultural methods, bad weather, compound effects of WW2 + the Chinese civil war, mismanagement, trade embargoes, etc… But others could explain it better than I can.

    Would the governing body of PRC in 1962 attributing the famine to government errors convince you otherwise? Would the Chinese government 20 years later confirming the same and reiterating it was the Mao policy that was faulty at the core convince you?

    If not, can you imagine a fact that would convince you, that the responsibility for that famine is on the then Chinese government? What is it?


  • You’re talking about narrative, spin a story about tribunal, and then spin a story that I’m defensive. I’m not.

    Insisting that the event happened the way you say it did without providing any rational or cause-effect relationship

    Literally what the first commenter gave - there was a widespread famine in China, it’s caused by Mao agricultural policies.

    What are you contesting here? There was no famine? Famine is the narrative? Or that it wasn’t caused by policies but by… What? Weather? Weather was good.

    I don’t understand your point, please clarify it, in a way that isn’t just calling your interlocutors stupid or defensive.


  • It’s not paywalled. I think you didn’t even bother to click “read full article” or whatever the button name is. They might ask you to register witb a free account.

    If you want to use other people opinions as an argument, I’m going to ask you for what you asked for - studies. Preferably published in journals, not essays by socials celebrities like Caitlin Johnstone, nor articles in Chinese newspapers, nor Reddit. And that’s because a deluge of weak sources is worthless - that’s how US propaganda works and enforces itself.

    Extra points if the studies are not from China or it’s close Allies, just so that you have exactly the same requirements as the ones you asked for.

    Can be paywalled.

    Edit: I highly recommend you read https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop







  • Well, I don’t know your use case well enough, but I guess you might have perfect reason for that behavior.

    One thing that comes to my mind is the old Try in C#

    bool parsedSuccessfully = int.TryParse("123", out int result);
    

    But I guess more popular approach would be to use Error as Values, right?

    E.g. something like this

    Outcome<Exception, Int> result = int.TotallyNewParse("123");