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  • Vegoon@feddit.detoMemes@lemmy.mlWe've all just got to do our part!
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    10 months ago

    Take a look at the Cargill family, 14 billionaires. From the wiki about the current CEO:

    In 2019, former U.S. Congressman Henry A. Waxman, in a report by Mighty Earth, called Cargill “the worst company in the world” and noted that it drives “the most important problems facing our world” (deforestation, pollution, climate change, exploitation) “at a scale that dwarfs their closest competitors.”

    Do you think that is because they use every cent to burn coal and oil in their backyard, or

    do you think it is because they produce and sell products to consumers which can not be produced without harm to the environment?

    99% of the planet could produce zero pollution for the rest of our lives and it wouldn’t even make a dent in the amount of pollution created by the billionaire class.

    How do you think they would create that damage to the environment if nobody would buy their products?




  • Its a multitude of reasons for people to go vegan: The animals, their own health, the probability of not creating a living hell on earth. The reason why vegans try to convince others is often because after a few years most are so disconnected from the killing of others for taste where it is a giant argument. The suffering and abuse of 90 billion sentient land animals per year alone is for most good enough to stop supporting it. I have surrendered that argument for most discussions because it is hard to have that empathy while it is a part in your live. It wasn’t for me, although is was not challenged in that view back then. So now my arguments moved more towards egoism which sometimes works.


  • Vegoon@feddit.detoMemes@lemmy.mlEnjoy it while it lasts.
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    1 year ago

    I am vegan since 5 years, before I was (don’t judge me, or do- its deserved) 10 years vegetarian. Since ~15 years? PV on my roof which feed into the grid many times more power than I used I rarely travel, not one flight. I advocate and work towards a sustainable future. Demonstrations and some political work. Go on, check my my posts and judge for yourself if I was maybe sarcastic?




  • Vegoon@feddit.detoMemes@lemmy.mlEnjoy it while it lasts.
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    1 year ago

    Veganism is the movement which has the highest potential to change society and is a huge impact on the environment. (IPCC: biggest single step one can take / even without fossile fuels our current food system will still contribute with +2°C to global warming)

    And it does not take away from any other activity we should pursue in the fight for climate, while ending support for some billionaires like Wesley Batista










  • Vegoon@feddit.detoMemes@lemmy.mlBut I love death
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    1 year ago

    Ah shit r/antivegan is leaking.

    I thought you follow logic but you are just concern trolling. If you would care about other countries, other people and animals and have some sense of biology you would look at the rain forests and see that they are burnt down for your food. Animal food industry is a wasteful business that is unsustainable. You profit from the systematic exploitation of workers and animals. I am really convinced that I am right because it like thermodynamics, you are the on dreaming of manure being a magic sludge that just produces nutrients from thin air.

    (8th most deadly, but who is counting? :) ).

    With that “:)” You have disqualified yourself to be taken seriously while the meat industry has the highest suicide rate everywhere in the world. You don’t even care about humans. Tractors which are used mainly for animal feed. I have proven your numbers wrong with a easy to read source.

    frozen tofu my ass. All animal products need a cooled delivery chain, my tofu is from beans grown near me. You just try to make up bullshit to convince your sorry ass you are doing the right thing. All fake news and “they” lie all to you.

    Beefcentral if you like that source more: https://www.beefcentral.com/news/ipcc-report-recommends-eating-more-plant-based-protein/

    You are just a fact denier at that point, and a lire if you say you fight for animal rights.



  • Vegoon@feddit.detoMemes@lemmy.mlBut I love death
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    1 year ago

    What exactly do you think we should plan to do with all the grass and waste product currently being used in feeding animals?

    Currently 75% of the product grown is for animal food. Grass fed is less than 10% even in the USA, and all give extra feed. Grass produces way more methane in ruminants compared to starch based feed like soy for which the rain forest is burned down.

    and the massive inefficiencies that would introduce.

    You know you need massive amounts of feed to others before you can kill them for your pleasure? We could feed 10 billion people with the product we grow right now. Instead we feed it other animals.

    I argue it’s easier to find technologies that can mitigate and reverse emissions than it is to find technologies to let the world cut out meat entirely.

    Others know it is not possible and act according: https://www.euronews.com/green/2022/01/31/china-includes-cultivated-meat-in-its-plan-for-the-future-of-food

    https://www.iatp.org/ipcc-report-reveals-urgency-methane-reduction-need-reduce-industrial-agriculture

    Which is absolutely your right. I have become convinced that my mixed diet leads to ultimately less death than a plant-based diet would

    Explain that. A plant based diet uses less resources in every way. You don’t think there are no animals killed for animal feed which is just a bad conversion of food, do you?

    We all have a impact on the environment and on others, but acting worse than we have to because of a nirvana fallacy is not acceptable. While our impact on the future is hard to measure it is today when we decide to support killing and abuse or not.