commiewithoutorgans [he/him, comrade/them]

Unintended may be somewhat true, in that nobody explicitly had that as a conscious reason, but it was an obvious result that they could’ve known beforehand. So I don’t think it’s useful at all to call it unintended. Just an easily understood and expected side effect

Libs and your obsession with whataboutism. This one isn’t even “whatabout,” the point is that the guy in this picture was fine, and in fact the army did everything in their power not to harm him.

In a complete opposite fashion, US drone operators gleefully shot random people and caused unbelievable harm to an entire region.

I proudly defend whataboutism when it’s used to exemplify the necessity of some tactic elsewhere or to compare similar cases for better understanding. But this isn’t even that

Philosophy absolutely has the ability to examine and propose better definitions when definitions (like the ones you linked) do not capture the phenomenon. Losurdo read more books than you’ve seen by liberals in order to write his “Liberalism” book. He understood the phenomenon deeper and further than its dictionary use.

How do you capture such a thing in your world view? Because he found flaws in definitions and worked deeper, he just did nothing because it wasnt the Oxford definition?

Liberalism is associated with those things because it allowed them to happen to avoid a negative effect to property rights (revolution, riots) once more radical people pushed for them. Liberalism is reactionary and regressive, but some liberals are easier to convince of specific rights extensions than others. You’ve been lied to a lot if you think liberals did these things

No prob comrade, 2034 and 2024 can look very similar due to us being so used to seeing 202* dates. I wouldn’t delete though, the fact that it’s spoken about in media as a fine choice for 2034 still means your point is correct

I’ve gotten to use PPB a lot more the last couple months. In fact I never used it before so that was cool. Otherwise it just adds some doomscrolling capabilities and also a way to see comrades dogpiling assholes. But the downsides are pretty apparent

Yeah that’s in 11 years I think lol. Still though the point stands

Well you’re a dumbass if you can’t understand this lol. What the fuck does the American Civil War have to do with this? Nobody forced the slavers to make a separate country. Meanwhile the US forced the south of Korea to set up a government and refuse any discussion with the rest of Korea. You can define invasion however you want but it’s nonsense to define how you’re trying other “governments tm” being how you define it

Atrocity propaganda is a real phenomenon used by westerners to inflate problems of non-western societies and deflate the genocides done by the west. You’ve fallen for it

They mean Chinese apologists from the west.

I for one am not apologizing for much of anything really. Mistakes have been made but the party has grown from that and critiques those. None of these are what these anti-chinese people are saying though

Damn, gonna have to make a new account somewhere to keep up the attack then. LGB-without-T folks gotta be attacked into correctness

Someone can’t get past liberal definitionalism and thinks that the goal of LGBT+ alliances are based on necessary and sufficient conditions (“attraction, specific, others don’t count” claims) instead of understanding the goal of opposing a line of oppression everywhere it reaches. The way homophobia works is very similar to transphobia, so the fight is perfect to combine. Put the oppressors all on the wall because this chain of phobias will only change focus if you don’t end it at the root.

Then we have the gay fascists who want to just put others on the wall using similar oppression to appease their own oppressors. It’s the same function as fascists at the geographical edge of the imperialist/fascistic expropriation border.

Saying this for the people listening not to you, turtle power. You’re an asshole and only shame can possibly make you reconsider your assholery

How are you doing that except for voting for Biden? The class conscious workers who aren’t succeeding in spreading that are the ones at fault, like me (and you, though I’m not convinced of you being class conscious). I’m trying my best though, in many organizations around many topics, to push my analysis further and improve it and the organizations to reach the goals of socialism.

But they aren’t really swayed, they are playing the good guys to prevent riots. The role they fill, regardless of how any democrat personally feels, is the role of the small concession to prevent riot. It’s super helpful to capitalism to have a tiny outlet so that the major exploitation is ignored. It’s only “better” when you obsess with the short term goals and can’t see the projects over decades and across borders. Sometimes I get it, honestly, like I am never mad at comrades voting for the hope that trans and indigenous comrades aren’t genocided. But it’s just not good strategy to think about that decision for more than like 4 minutes a year because of the above stated functional argument.

We came to the conclusions because we want to avoid giving up. Once you realize that settling for “harm reduction” is also a form of giving up, you learn to think strategically and read people who think strategically about these things for real improvement. Like Lenin.

But also you changed the subject, I know that capitalists hated Stalin but I love him for that. Has nothing to do with the facts I stated, because Obama literally did worse than Nazino island in Libya lol, but he’s not a dictator because the way libs use the word is meaningless

Absurdly popular does not insinuate perfect, nor do I believe he was perfect nor all actions done in the government under his leadership. I do highly doubt these claims, seeing as they come from the guy who wrote the black book of communism (source for most of the wiki article) and Anne Applebaum included lol. If I had to guess, those people hated Stalin and the Soviet Union because an unplanned tragedy occurred which probably could’ve been forseen. During a drought and famine, the idea of sending people you can’t feed (or won’t give priority to because they are not working actively and improving the situation for all) to an island which is capable of being developed for agriculture to quickly do that isn’t the worst idea.

biggest point out of this: don’t trust people who write nazi propaganda (black book of communism and Anne Applebaum) and then relook at the story

My comrade there is making no claim that an anecdote proves something other than the claim that Stalin sadistically enjoyed starving people is false. The hope is that these specific events will trigger a thought in your head like “wow, this is totally out of character for this figure which I thought I understood,” and then possibly read further in books based on the Soviet archives instead of books utilizing only info from the cold war or nazi propaganda

Oh wow, a poor country was still poor 4 years after fighting the most tragic and destructive war in history?? I’m hearing this for the first time…

Stalin was as much of a dictator as any other leader with powers over the military (all in the western world, as far as I know) but otherwise was always working with the politburo and party. That’s what the CIA is admitting. I think determination of “dictator” or not is vibes based. What was he able to do that makes Stalin a dictator but let’s say Obama not?

Stalin was a leader for the proletariat, maybe a leader of the dictatorship of the proletariat, but he was absurdly popular and beloved because he really represented the interests of the poor in that position.

Russia is an interesting case, and most scholars of race do not think that Russians are white in any sociological sense, because white supremacists don’t consider them white and they aren’t treated as “white people” by white people. They are “asiatic” to racists. Their skin is, on average, fairly white. But that was never what being white meant, or at least people who claimed so were never consistent about it in history (people whiter than many white people but with black ancestors weren’t white for example, and fair skinned Asian people also aren’t white despite being lighter in skin tone). Whiteness is a category of exclusion