“Meet me in the middle, says the unjust man.

You take a step towards him, he takes a step back.

Meet me in the middle, says the unjust man.”

Thanks for the reference, from there I found the very impressive original Nature paper “A RISC-V 32-bit microprocessor based on two-dimensional semiconductors” fantastic stuff!!

From the paper, that’s almost a 40x improvement on comparable logic integration!

Some notes from the paper:

• Transistor channel length is 3 um
• Clock speed is 1 kHz

Typically this is where people like to shit on the design “cos muh GHz” etc, but tbf not only will people doubtless work on improving the clock speeds etc, but there’s plenty of applications where computation time or complexity isn’t so demanding, so i’m just excited by any breakthrough in these areas.

if this is a full RISCV implementation in 2D materials this is a genuinely impressive breakthrough!!

just want to add, it’s not the zoomer’s fault. they were intentionally raised in ignorance because its apparently profitable

fuck the corporations who’ve deliberately turned our living computers into soulless commercial brainwashing surveillance machines

afaik mmW is FR2

5G FR1 is sub x-band microwave

https://i.imgur.com/SuPafFd.gif

and they’re using our retirement money to do it

what a fucked timeline

browsers turning off specific extensions which protect us.

they shouldn’t even have a horse in this race. i mean we know why they do, but damn is it completely insane.

what’s also fucked is how normalised this is becoming.

all of that said, edge who?

i think they mostly mean the ones in the middle

https://smartcdn.gprod.postmedia.digital/nexus/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/0703-dg-benches.jpeg

Glad to see everyone agrees this is

1. funny cos they’re crying over stealing what they stole

2. acknowledges this means the weights are actually open sourced (which is how it fuckin should be)

also discussion i’ve seen elsewhere:

3. when considering the energy footprint of chatgpt, also consider the energy footprint of running the internet for 30 years to accumulate all that data they stole. therefore the most ecological option is to extract the weights and then opensource it.

just want to add

4. if the accusations aren’t true (still a possibility), oai is probably deliberately buying time/stock recovery by keeping this discussion in the news rather than everyone discussing how much they suck

5. if large entities are going to capture and then open source each others proprietary weights, that may actually be one of the best outcomes for global humanity amidst this “AI” craze

wow the level of cope in this thread (thankfully not that many tho) arguing over stats - which are probably made up anyway.

some people can’t handle that most humans just wanna be friends regardless of gov politics bs

innovating or being less wasteful??

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arguing to reduce the population so the privileged can have even more privilege?

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Always good to see competition which benefits the end users.

Any idea who they plan to use for fabrication?

gonna use this as an opportunity to launch my ted talk:

there’s no such thing as anything but “race mixing” since every single human on the planet is a mix of different ancient races anyway

(or to put another way, race is a bs term anyway since we’re all homosapiens)

why does it need to be device agnostic?

happy to get into into these subtopics, but it’s also possible i may not be understanding you properly because i agree with alot of what you just said.

what are you attributing the close to 0 probability to?

if you wanna say “whats the probability that CMG was at least partly talking out their arse about their capabilities (and especially any claim they were currently in possession of that capability)?”

i’d also give it like >90% probability they (CMG) are full of shit. in which case you could say i agree with you (to within say 10% error margin).

if you’re instead saying the probability is ~100% that audio surveillance capability cannot possibly currently exist outside TLAs because “someone would’ve published it already” then i really cannot agree. (and afaict that ars article does not support that stance either)

Not disputing the three letter agencies

The capability they were claiming to have would make a three letter agency very excited.

sorry i didn’t understand. didn’t you say you don’t doubt TLAs likely already have this capability?

oppressive regimes

most (all?) of whom are operating outside typical legal constraints and likely already have access to the million dollar exploit trade which already exists.

further, i’m not sure how this changes the landscape anyway? its not without precedent that variations on capabilities can be useful to more than one market segment concurrently?

trivial to discover and flag as malware

can you explain further what you mean by this? i’m not sure there’s anything trivial about conclusive analysis of the deep complexities and dependencies of modern smart devices

Apple and Google would also be very keen to find and squash whatever loophole let’s them record without showing the notification.

historically we’ve seen google can take over half a decade to address such things, afaict (welcome correction on this) apple’s generally been faster to respond, and i do agree apple’s current public image attire would be contrary to be seen to enable this. [not simping for apple btw, just stating that part of their brand currently seems to be invested in this]

in reality there are a confluence of many agendas and there’s likely ALOT of global users running non-bleeding edge or other variations on the myriad of sub-system components, regardless of what upstream entities like google implement. if you are aware of any conclusive downstream binary analyses please link

which if true would have been exposed/validated by security researchers long ago.

i agree the probability of discovery increases over time. and the landscape is growing more hostile to such activities. yet i’m not aware that a current lack of published discovery is actual proof it’s never happened.

tbh we have our doubts this leak is directly connected to solid proof “they are listening”.

but we’re not currently aware of any substantiated reasons to say with certainty “they’re absolutely not listening”

well they’re an ad company, so being full of shit is pretty much mandatory.

but i’m not aware of any evidence they’re actually 100% full of shit on this exact issue or not? can you explain a little more how you know for certain they’re full of shit. or you just meant “they’re most likely full of shit”?

honestly i think this is due to unplanned voice calls essentially being broken technology now.

imagine we had 2020s email spammers while mail servers had 1990s spam filters, that’s basically where we’re at now with unplanned voice.