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  • People need to understand that it’s possible to both condemn Hamas, who are a fundamentalist organization that regularly commits terrorism, and acknowledge that Isreal is committing a genocide against the Palestinian people.

    If anything the current far-right Isreali government benefits from Hamas because a more moderate faction having power in Gaza would make it harder for them to justify their goal of ethnically cleansing Palestinians from the Gaza strip (and likely eventually the West Bank and Israel proper).


  • This is true, but the casualties are hitting the population of Gaza indiscriminately, and the median age there is only 18. So you’re still killing half children. Even if the ranks of Hamas are heavily stacked with 16-17 year old kids (in which case indiscriminate killing of them would still be better to avoid, it’s not like child soldiers are really capable of consenting to the risks of armed conflict), there’s no way the majority of the deaths are actual Hamas combatants.



  • You can literally see Gaza City leveled on satellite maps, very few buildings are left standing. Even if Isreal hadn’t killed a Single civilian, tens to hundreds of thousands would eventually die of exposure because they have nowhere else to go, their homes have been destroyed (Egypt isn’t willing to take Gazan refugees and it seems like neither is anyone else in the area).

    The infrastructural damage alone is enough to indirectly kill 10s of thousands minimum in the long run. And of course Isreal has been striking civilians, so the total scale of the civilian life lost will be much larger than that.



  • There are far more ethnic Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank living in third world conditions, who are denied Israeli citizenship than there are Palestinian Israeli citizens, and even the ones with citizenship are subjected to a level of racism and state violence comparable to Black Americans in the Jim Crow south.


  • Imo the whole “let’s give Jewish people a state after the holocaust” thing was a good idea, but they should have put it Germany. Germany were the ones who actually Did the holocaust, therefore there’s some argument to be made that they were entitled to German land, you could consider it a form of reparations. There was no argument for Jewish people being entitled to Palestine because their ancient ancestors lived there like 1800 years ago or whatever


  • gh0stcassette@lemmy.blahaj.zonetoMemes@lemmy.mlHmmmm
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    Yeah, iirc the Isrealite ethnic group was a combination of Canaanites and tribes from near Canaan that invaded during the Bronze Age Collapse. Though the religion is mostly Canaanite-derived, Yahweh and Elohim, the two main titles/names used to describe the Abrahamic God in the Torah are descended from the Canaanite gods Yaweh and El, who were syncretized together into a single god sometime before/during the early 1st temple period.

    Edit: Though there’s also loads of Mesopatamian influence, the Noah’s flood myth is directly based on the Mesopatamian flood myth that eventually made it into the Epic of Gilgamesh. Plus lots of ancient Isrealite folklore is derived from Mesopatamia, like Lilith, who is probably derived from a kind of demon in Mesopatamian mythology that fed on newborn children and was in league with Lamashtu, who was basically an Anti-Fertility goddess, considered responsible for infant mortality.


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    I mean, the US sucks, but they don’t just support settler colonial states for its own sake. They support Israel because it’s strategically useful to have a US friendly state in the middle east that’s small enough that they will basically do what we say (unlike Saudi Arabia). Also a significant portion of Republicans in congress think that Israel/Palestine being controlled by Jews is a necessary precondition for the Rapture. The US is more indifferent to the genocide of the Palestinians than anything, which imo is just as bad, but it’s important to look at the material causes for things instead of just saying “these two countries have similar ideologies so they’ll be allies”.