I’m not trying to paint you anything, I’m just reading your replies. At least I did until now.

That sentence upset you to the point you feel the need to insult my intelligence, misrepresent what is written, forget that “you” can mean people in general and ignore any clarification. That’s regrettable as I’m sure you do actually understand what I’m trying to say here but can’t address it over a perceived slight.

You took a comment that addressed noone in particular a bit personal and now pretend it was meant to start a revolution on a very niche corner of the internet. Not quite what I consider worth my time.

I am and I’m looking forward to it. It might take a while before I can reply, though, so please don’t think I’m ghosting you.

You make it sound like you’re just a cog in a machine with no agency and I do believe that’s what it feels like (other countries are in late capitalism, too) but you’re not if enough of you band together. You’re not forced to watch your life pass before your eyes, you choose to play along with the machine’s game. Hell, you even got the guns to take what should be yours and you just use them to shoot at little paper targets.

I don’t think of you as fat and lazy or the devil. It’s just frustrating to see your potential go to waste like that.

Lol, that’s the mildest form of corruption I can imagine.

But do you really think a village has zoning laws in the first place?

At that scale, it’s also much easier to just remove the chief’s son from his hut on the “nice hill”. And the chief along with him. Scale being the key factor is the essence of my argument.

No, that’s not an example of votes not counting equally…? Am I misunderstanding your example?

You don’t need some mathematical proof to just count all the votes and see which candidate got more votes. It’s how most elections throughout the world work.

Sure. But it only really becomes a problem in very large communities. A chieftain overseeing 50-100 villagers isn’t as easily corrupted.

I don’t know enough about Roman politics to contradict but “any civilisation really” is definitely too broad of a stroke.

Yeah, because everybody knows the obvious answer. It’s untethered capitalism. And no it hasn’t always been that way. Politicians weren’t always whores for the rich. That’s a rather recent development that can absolutely be stopped by the will of the people.

You are not powerless to stop it. Who is telling you this and why do you believe it? Your group is much, much bigger than the one who fucks everything up. Go out and show them! Nobody is telling you to get thicker skin, they’re telling you to get off your ass and get angry about it.

This is the most honest reply so far.

Are those voters people with agency or just cattle? You realize your group is a lot bigger than the group that you watch exploiting you, right?

It absolutely isn’t. There is no inherent reason why votes can’t be added up and tallied in a straight forward way in a representative democracy.

“The media” sounds like a convenient scapegoat. Who gives a fuck about how things are painted? Do you really just go “well, I guess I better waive my right to having my vote count equally, don’t want the neighbours to think I’m un-american” or is that just an excuse for lethargy? I don’t mean to antagonise you but I think you should ask yourself some tough questions once in a while.

But why is nobody even protesting it? Seems kind of a cornerstone of democracy, no? How could anything coming out of this system have any legitimacy?

I prefer bringing up that in US “democracy” some votes count more than others. When trump won, more people voted for Clinton and for some reason yanks seem to be totally ok with this.

Well, if it has been strongly condemned, surely the IDF will have learned its lesson now.