All of the west has had conservative aristocrats take over their mainstream parties, the only reform vote is the far right misdirecting anger from the plutocracy to immigrants and everything else.

Without getting a popular reform option fascists will seize the entire west with russia and the us helping behind the scenes, and fix elections like in hungary or however and we will not be able to get rid of them even as they get worse every cycle.

The western european countries will fall like dominoes with current leadership and lack thereof. We need to organize first, then find and groom real leaders, then take elections and direct anger to it’s sources, the super rich.

Israel could have orchestrated it. They are allied to nazis so it all checks out. I wonder if the shooter had a terminal disease and his gf and family will get something in return.

Says the brigading tanky stroking off Russia and China.

Your argument is too stupid to refute, only a total fucking moron would want China or Russia’s government, get the fuck out of here.

Finally is not accurate, I have known this my entire life and for over 16 years have been evangela sizing about the need for better opposition politicians offering a new deal rather than plutocratic rot led by the most unpopular candidates they could possibly find. Unpopular and candidates not fit for the moment. Everyone knows they are being screwed if not by whom. It has long been clear either the Democrats channel that anger or the Republicans will. The Democrats refused so now the Republicans will. And those Democrats are blaming everybody else. But they knew the situation and refused to change their strategy written in 1990.

Or arrogance and hubris of villains in politics, painting themselves as the lesser evil while aligned with their opposition against the voters they hsve contempt for.

They are cynically playing the sheep, they have no heartstrings.

And the sheep are led into an alternate reality where the moral thing is to follow these cynical influencers.

It did not happen overnight, 30 years of fox working on previous propaganda has step by step brought their sheep to support fascism.

Also many will remove your comments without telling you, it appears to be posted, I learned reveddit showed you what was removed.

But yeah mods work for free so allowing their petty tyranny is a selling point of the gig, not sure how lemmy works, did see one dude that said banned user arguing with people on another instance.

As anti-establishment and highly critical of the Democratic Party I have seen the exact same thing here is on Reddit

They did not call out the true mofivation of lawmakers so they are complicit.

I got a 3 day ban, 2nd offence, on my 6th account, after the 3-day ban I abandon the account.

Only took 6 weeks this time and I was watching myself. They have dishonest moderation At Site wide level and I do not want to use it at all either, unless maybe two Shuffle people to the fediverse.

Too arrogant. They are the aristocracy and have contempt for their non rich supporters. Especially those do gooders that believe in things beyond helping themselves.

As to cameron at least, idk if he is pig headed, but he does sodomize dead pigs. He stuck his weiner in a dead pig’s mouth as part of initiation into his aristocratic college club. As reported by one of his old club pals. Another part was to offer a 50 pound note to a homeless, snatch it back, and burn it.

Starmer is likewise a pig fucker or similar I bet.

It is not a misunderstanding of the intentions so much as they are playing by the old rules where you do not call something for what it is out of polity.

An old decorum only exercised by the weak Democratic establishment now.

The Republicans do more than call out for what it is, they lie and accuse you of being the problem for their own perversions. But our Democrats refuse to even truthfully call a problem.

Well do not stop there, you should explain why the other side doesn’t get more votes. Because the opposition party is worthless at best. Being better than the other guy has never been enough to comfortably win elections and we already knew that but that is the only thing we are offering. The way to get elected is not to be half as Republican as the republicans, it is to be Champion popular reform and loudly fight for it. To call out villains by name, to have a, to have a fucking spine.

We are doomed with this same opposition party and Power and they are despite the last election. We should all agree that’s a failure. Nobody answers for that? We allowed the same power Brokers to do the next one?

Most of the referendum laws sponsored by voters are Constitutional Amendments that take an extra supermajority of 3/4 I think to overturn them. Others like Florida it is just statutory law and when they passed that law allowing felons to vote the lawmakers just jammed it up with other laws so only like 200 of them were registered to vote election time.

Vassals of the US, and by extension of the connected organized owner class, of corporations. Government is the middleman and the rich control them all.

There is a carrot, It is corruption. There is so much going on behind the scenes right now with these guys. Any carrot would be self-serving by the administration obviously. The president has made 3.6 billion dollars he would not have since he got re-elected, that we know about according to some journalists that looked into it recently.

The amount they have made under the table in deals through surrogates is surely a lot more than that. For reference it is estimated that Putin is the richest person in the world in reality.

The truly great see money as a means to an end, these guys see money as the end.

You haven’t seen anything yet as to increasing the debt I am afraid. Every and any excuse they will milk the credit card.

If they do manage to make a supreme leader that sticks they will ad hoc default by over printing money and paying off the debts with that devalued currency.

Probably doing it at the behest of the western oil companies.