The concentrated stupidity between the lawmakers pulling these moves and the dummies eating that shit up

despite surviving an impeachment vote thanks to his own party, the People’s Power Party (PPP) boycotting.

So the whole party is and was in on it? Trying to put the next pres into place to try again or what

Yeah couple of options here:

• he’s the guy but is irrational, mentally whatever and not the calculated genius the online hype has built him up to be
• he’s the guy and intentionally got himself caught / planned to give himself up for a variety of possible reasons (acting as a public figure, mental instability, guilt, sense of righteousness/justice idk)
• he’s not the guy and the information on the gun and ID is false or misrepresented
• he’s not the guy but a whole slew of planted evidence, fake/exaggerated reporting etc make him out to be the guy, which imo seems like the most conspiracy-nutty take. not saying it’s not possible but it seems the least likely.

and climate-change causes

must be a terrorist if he believes in science /s

Fucking digging through the “person of interest”'s social media account, all but doxxing his entire life without any confirmation that he’s the guy.
Sensationalist shitrag

Why even bring up random gifs from a github repo??

I have a feeling our timelines diverged a good bit earlier than that, not sure if we’ll be able to hold amy meaningful conversation.

Still lacking any substance or source btw, I’ll stop engaging now.

Thats how i read it too, no worries.

I’d be shocked but who the hell knows at this point

not my fault you just sent me 3 or 4 responses across the thread

Define paraphrasing :D

Well I mean we did start off by talking about your claim the Russians are indiscriminately bombing civilians though!

That’s still false :)

Thats a lot of words that all don’t say “my bad i misread that”. Try that for once.

Ah must’ve been the ukrainians killing civillians on Ukrainian ground then DROP YOUR SOURCE.

You didnt present anything buddy. I read your link. It was inconsequential. Do you have anything that actually refute any of the facts? Lets just go for the civillian deaths, ignoring all and any speculative accusations. Just the hard numbers. Who killed them. How many?

The argument wasnt about which source you like. You just pivoted there for you have nothing relevant to add. Your first move was to deflect from the topic at hand to an argument about sources. Okay there are dozens of them, which ones do you allow for this discussion?

Okay, cool, news sites have conflicts of interest. Thats why you vet the ones that are mostly neutral DESPITE ties. Same applies to yours, but thats nothing you can even fucking fathom.

Stop deflecting. Stay on topic for just one comment.

Drop your sources on the civillian deaths or shut up and move on.

Just wanna point out that in this initial reply to the comment tree, you did the exact same thing I just called you out on:
Misrepresenting (or to not assume malice, misREADING) another comment to then spin your entire narrative around that error.
They said:

Putin doesn’t mind how many Russians will die

You base your retort on:

If Putin doesn’t care how many Ukrainians die

“this already shows you are terrible at reading. How am I supposed to expect you to treat anything else I show you seriously when you cannot even read your own material?”

Righty, we’re playign a game of semantics not content. Got it.
I wrote

totally reasonable in his target choices?

Any further specific claims came from you.

Further:

There’s of course a bunch of civilian massacres still under active investigation, plus a lot of varying numbers between UA officials and independent reports.

me acknowledging the unclear nature of war-time reports.
Again, the rest is you projecting a slightly different argument onto my words to give yourself an easier time filing me away as a “propaganda victim” or whatever.

First of all this statistic is of the total reports of civilian deaths on both sides in the war, this already shows you are terrible at reading

If I were to argue like you do, I’d now go off about how you claim ALL civilian casualties died at Ukrainian hands.
I don’t do that though, instead I’d ask you to provide the detailed breakdown you seem to have you hands on.

You seem to also have missed this:

The figures exclude Crimea and Sevastopol due to the lack of corroborating information.

Meaning, your alleged genocide is not in this dataset.

And lastly, you’re still not providing literally anything of substance yourself. You only tactic is discredit any potential source and ignore the ones you don’t wanna engage with in advance so you can later claim “no that one doesn’t count, I already said it’s propaganda” while the only thing you’re currently leaning on is an opinion piece from a heavily biased borderline conspiracy rag.

Either you engage with what I’m writing and work with the people you’re talking to, or you keep arguing in bad faith. If you pick the latter, feel free, go off king, i’m not interested.

White House narrative

Muricacentric much?

But first I want a source for your claim that Russia is indiscriminately bombing civilians.

Strawman, letsgooo.
Besides your random made up arguments, here are some numbers on civilian casualties:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1293492/ukraine-war-casualties/

There’s of course a bunch of civilian massacres still under active investigation, plus a lot of varying numbers between UA officials and independent reports. Mostly it’s just the precise numbers that are unclear, not the act itself. See:

https://www.osce.org/files/f/documents/f/a/515868.pdf https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/06/ukraine-deadly-mariupol-theatre-strike-a-clear-war-crime-by-russian-forces-new-investigation/ https://www.npr.org/2022/06/27/1107854331/russian-missile-strike-shopping-mall-kremenchuk

But of course these are all western propaganda, please enlighten me with your credible sources full of irrefutable proof that i’m entirely consumed by fake news.

surely you have a lot of irrefutable sources for your claims.
It’s crazy how many people here are touting the widely disclaimed coup or genocide.
Like surely there’s a lot of publicly accessible, independent data on all of that, right?
Surely there’s a very good reason why Crimea was invaded in a cloak-and-dagger operation by unmarked soldiers while russia officially demented any accusations it’s their troops? Surely.

“claim” is the key word in that sentence.

Ah so putin is the good guy whos checks notes liberating the ukraine and totally reasonable in his target choices?

It’s been changed shortly after. Still pretty embarrassing.