So, not carbonara. Pasta with lemon is awesome, I also love pasta with tuna, both also work together, but it’s not a carbonara.

I will go out on a limb here and guess those were not ravioli and some form of pelmeni instead? There are types of them that are usually eaten with sour cream and jam. But the dough used is quite different from the ravioli one, and the filling is cheese (not meat or ricotta/spinach).

Was that the case?

It actually makes sense, because Italian history is far from a continuum. In fact, most “Italian cuisine” is actually less than 100 years old!

Most of Italian recipes are very simple. The focus usually is on quality on the ingredients and if they are good, a pizza with just mozzarella and tomatoes is already delicious. That said, even in Italy there are plenty of types of pizzas, but most of them don’t have 20 ingredients, I suppose the point is that you actually want to taste what you eat, which is not the case when you mix many different things. There is a very messy and rich pizza (capricciosa) with a lot of toppings though (more than one obviously, but this is the most common).

Personally I am a margherita person, simple and boring is perfect, as long as it tastes great.

P.s. Giuseppe :)

It’s not about being right, it’s about making something that tastes good. Besides that, there are also well established cultural traditions. But as long as people call their garbage pizzas “NY pizza”, or whatever and it’s well distinguished by “Italian pizza” (or Neapolitan, etc.), I don’t see the problem.

Completely different dough in terms of consistency and taste. Bread and pizza are quite different, so many ingredients that work on pizza don’t work on sandwiches and vice versa. Having said that, people can eat what they please.

For what is worth, that’s not how (most?) Italians think about pizza. It’s not a “container” in which you put a bunch of things, but each pizza type is basically a separate dish.

I personally don’t care what people put on their pizza, I simply avoid places that make “pizzas” in a non-italian fashion, like the american (supposedly NY style) ones where you get crust, 2 fingers of industrial cheese and a whole plant of oregano.

It’s very similar for pasta, which many people think as a bread replacement.

Blind (I mean literally, he said he supports doesn’t matter what) support to Putin and his imperial effort, public support for the ongoing invasion of Ukraine, helped gathering money for military equipment, showed up to the front to “support troops” and other stuff like that.

Wikipedia has a few lines, with a few sources linked.

You can see also a video (in Russian): https://smotrim.ru/video/2587296

Essentially the equivalent of an IDF groupie. Yuck.

Technically wouldn’t being a democracy be an aggravating factor for Israel wrongdoings, which makes the population more responsible compared to Russian or Belarussian one (therefore including athletes)?

I don’t really agree with the rationale, although I personally wouldn’t have supported a ban on Israelis athletes (similarly to how I generally don’t agree with the same ban on Russian athletes - unless you are specifically a supporter of values that go against the Olympics such as genocide…- e.g., I agree with Karjakin being banned from any chess competition).

What do you mean by “use”? Here the whole debable was about pre-school from what I understand. Russian is still studied as a language in primary school, let alone spoken home etc.

Also Latvian and Russian are quite different languages, although not so different as for example Estonian and Russian (where BTW similar measures in educations have been passed).

Good, let me give back the favour with all the violence threats and wishes. At least you are the only one in bad faith :)

Oh no, a comment in another context again interpreted from your US-centric view!

I mean, you think I care about your respect? A person who makes 0 effort in understanding other points of views (quite similar, ironically) and straight up insults and wishes death to others? Lol you are thinking way too much of yourself.

I also stand by every word of that comment, as the concept of white privilege doesn’t apply everywhere (Italy has a completely different history and racial dynamic compared to US).

Again, you have a colonialist mindset, and you are completely incapable of accepting that the US cultural lens is not the only lens that exists and that won’t apply to many. So tell whatever stories you want to yourself, shout as much as you can, but I am just explaining my views and providing cultural context (which has nothing to do with excusing or defending homophobia). You refuse to accept this context because you think that your perspective is universal. I will repeat it, colonialist mindset.

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You can also verify that “mortacci tua” (literally: cursing your dead ancestors) is a slur/cuss, but in Rome it is used 80% as a friendly expression. Just to make an example.

Culture and language exist beyond your google searches…

So your opinion on the use of an Italian word is not important, as you are not in the community (Italian speakers). Sounds good to me.

(Obviously I consider your argument BS, but happy to apply it both ways).

You are not reading at all, apparently. Shame, it’s useful sometimes. You should try.

“I don’t speak the language, you do, but I know better than you what is and is not a slur because every language has to work the same”. Frociaggine is hardly a slur, it’s a term that can be used in many contexts without any particular hateful undertone, although this applies to friendly contexts mostly. “frocio” is closer to a slur because it’s more personal, although in Italian is very common for slurs/bad words to be used in a completely different way too (see for example use of “stronzo”) or without the bad connotation. In Rome this phenomenon is particularly common.

You seem to have a colonialist mindset. Your culture/language apparently has to apply anywhere, no differences accepted.

Also, I am a radical leftist who is a full supporter of LGBTQ rights, and I fight the Church in Italy for decades. So you can put down your strawman.

Calling gaslighting telling you about a word that you don’t understand is the cherry on top :)

Unlike you (apparently) I speak the language, and my whole point is that it’s not really a “slur”. You can feel as you want about it, you can even feel attacked by someone wishing you good day, for all I care. It doesn’t change the fact that the word itself is not really that bad. It’s not comparable to " fag…" In English.

I see you are just a hateful person who is looking for reasons to feel prosecuted, at the cost of bending reality, so you can hate others. Suit yourself, I am sure your behavior will greatly help your community!

Edit: I forgot. You are wishing people to burn or worse in this thread left and right, with a half-asses understanding of what has been written. You are nasty even IF someone was defending the pope. Take it down a couple of notches.

So you have problems reading I guess. I am saying the slur is not the problem (because it’s not that bad in this instance), the institutionalized homophobia is one of the many systemic problems of the church that is not going anywhere even if you get a pope that speaks using pronouns.

So take a chill pill, being gay or even being right doesn’t give you the right to be a nasty person. Cheers

Dude I am from Rome, I want to see the Vatican in flames since way before people got upset from a very small thing among the many more serious reasons.

Few months ago when the Pope made timid openings to the LGBTQ community he was celebrated as a revolutionary. I am just saying, the word itself is not that bad and if this is the reason you feel such anger, and not the fact that the Church is an institution who did so many atrocious things (instituzionalized misogyny and homophobia among the many), then your judgment is just poor and you are getting angry for the wrong reason.