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  • Thats understandable and I think I arrive at the same point. All be it from a slightly different way. I have no faith in us doing anything to change it because no one likes the answer.

    What do you feed an insatiable monster who can absorb any weapon you throw at it and poops out planet killing gas?

    As little as possible.

    What does capitalism actually feed on?

    Human labour.

    Specifically human labour, above and beyond what we need to live and have a comfortable life. The problem is, you can’t have super rich without vast amounts of excess, toxic, forced labour.

    The answer has always been the strategic refusal of work. The problem is, you might as well tell people that the way to salvation is punching babies in the face because work is now as much a god as anything else we’ve had in human culture.

    Want to sit around and do nothing to save the planet?

    Well, now you can.



  • The worst part is, some of us are going to be resurected, only to be forced to labour away in the flaming sword manufacturing department.

    What, do you think heavenly, flaming swords make themselves or something?

    Oh, oh right, yeah, I see your point now. You’re right, I’ll probably just end up in flaming sword logistics or admin. Back-office is what I do now. So, that’ll make sense…

    Honestly, just leave me dead if ill only be brought back to gods fucking paperwork.

    Edit: also, you know someone’s gonna be like “OMG daddy Satan, come get me!”













  • What is also true is that its the mentality of a depressive who views hope as a dangerous delusion, as had been said a fair few times now.

    It is lashing out, as you can’t refute it or engage it.

    Dismissing a legitimate observation of our society as a silly caricature is a far more silly caricature of someone who just doesn’t like what they’re hearing.

    Existence is measured in money, under capitalism. Why would you lying about it and not meaning make any difference? As long as you’re doing what you were paid to do, it would have the same appearance and the same effect. I would take the money too, as its the most important thing in society and existance is measured in it. Thats the point here. Why would I care what was in your heart of hearts?

    No, none of the other systems survived an attack by a system that cannot tolerate any alternatives to live unmolested. Had any of them failed of their own accord, you might have a point there. You can’t shoot someone in the leg and then declare that their claims of being able to run didn’t survive an encounter with reality.

    Trying to improve capitalism has never survived an encounter with reality. All it did was make the rich richer.

    Capitalism didn’t improve feudalism. Firstly, capitalism grew out of merchantislism. Secondly, merchantislism had to be forced on people who had been robbed of their homes and were facing starvation. Had they any other option than starving, they would have stuck with feudalism.


  • The first paragraph is literally the same “I can’t justify capitalism but the others are worse” argument again.

    The society we live in is an employment based, market fundamentalist society. It just used to be a different kind of fundamentalist theocratic rule is all.

    Instead of lashing out and calling it a silly caricature, you can just say “I just plain don’t like that.” It would have had the same effect.

    That being said, how much money would it take for you to change your mind about existence being measured in terms of money alone being a silly caricature? Even if you were the type to give it all away, eventually, we would find a number. Not only that, you’d be a multi millionaire and, as such, on that basis alone, your existence would be judged as an inherently good one.


  • Thanks for explaining what a market is.

    Its a good job we have such a thing to tell us that what we really want is to work most of our lives, mostly for someone else benefit, to endlessly produce things to a point that it destroys our planets ability to sustain life. Without such a devine oracle, we might have to ask difficult questions about what we’re doing and for whos benefit.

    Its a good to know there must be such a high demand for inequality too. Without the justification of the invisible hand, we might have to think about morals and other gross stuff.

    But, as you make such a good point about not being able to get rid of something and just making a black market for it, as justificationfor keeping the market in its current state

    Well, that and slavery of course. If the argument works for one it works for both.