• Sylver@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    A fun idea to think about when original members of a species stick around through all of their collective cultural evolution

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        Galadriel also has a pretty impressive list of horrors.

        • saw the Two Trees die
        • grandfather murdered by one of the gods before murder even was a thing
        • witnessed the massacre of her mother’s kin
        • cursed by the Valar
        • walked across the Helcaraxë
        • saw the rise and fall of the Noldorin kingdoms of Beleriand
        • escaped the sack of Menegroth
        • present in the War of Wrath and the following ruin of Beleriand
        • rules Eregion with Celeborn until Sauron’s attack destroys the realm, escapes to Lothlórien
        • daughter captured and tortured by orcs, leaves to the West heavily traumatized
        • high royalty born into literal paradise, ends up holding the last pieces of elven civilization in Middle-Earth together and ruling over a forest
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          Sees the most valiant and wise of men personally blessed by the Valar turn around and try to wage war against them because they aren’t content with only living 5-10x longer than normal men. It’s a wonder she still gives them the time of day.

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      10 months ago

      That’s the problem with immortality, hanging around and holding back the culture.

      ESPECIALLY when the oldest of them are basically in charge of everything.

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    Wood Elves, High Elves and fucking Noldor…

    What we are really talking about is 3 different cultures, not 3 different writing styles.

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        While that is an act they are surely well known for, the ACTUAL Noldor slogan is ‘MINE MINE GIMME MINE FUCK YOU MINE! WE WILL BURN IT ALL DOWN BITCHES!’

        It sounds prettier in elvish.

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      10 months ago

      Hobbit elves are just LOTR elves when there aren’t any humans around

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        There’s actually a whole tragic backstory of their king having PTSD and refusing to deal with the darkness growing in his woods because of it, escaping into feasting and singing instead because to act would cost elven lives, but also yes.

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    That is one of the flaw in the hobbit movie imho, in the book they tease the dwarves and sing silly songs and are generally very lighthearted. In the movie they are almost dour in comparison to the dwarves. But the hobbit was much more of a childrens book that the lord of the rings.

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        Yeah I guess. But these lighthearted wood elves don’t appear in either film series. Maybe in the upcoming reboot (jk)

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              I guess its different when you grow up with it. I always felt it gave it a certain fairy tale feel that while not directly called for by the text, made my young brain fall in love with it all the more. Like the whole concept of uglycute and baby yoda or whatever his name is.

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                it feels very true to JRRs inspiration from finnish, the style has the same vibe as traditional art up here where you’re not sure if something is a rock or a troll and everything feels vaguely unsettling.

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      I had no idea anyone has watched those movies close enough to bother comparing it to the book.

      E. I guess I’m wrong and the Hobbit trilogy is a movie people study… for some reason.