At which point did I defend Putin or Xi in this conversation? I used the same argument as you did to argue that there’s Nazi sympathetic fighters in the Ukrainian armed forces.
Would you defend soldiers fighting side by side Nazi symbols?
So are you saying nazi leadership in Ukraine isn’t nazi?
As you clearly appear to be unaware, Ukraine is not under “Nazi Leadership.” That’s something you were told in order to justify Russia’s attempts to conquer them for their resources and expand their own borders just as they have in the past.
Now. Ukrainian military, its puppet leadership and its NATO allies are pretty accepting of fighting side by side, and providing weapons to Nazi sympathetic fighters.
Azov has gotten completely diluted by a gigantic influx of ordinary people, its hardcore Nazi times were over before they were even rolled into Ukraine’s overall command structure which came along with some more denazification. The Wolfsangel isn’t recognised as a far-right symbol in Ukraine by the general public so they kept it. It’s also not a clear-cut Nazi symbol even in Germany, you see it on plenty of coat of arms, it also has plenty of use in forestry which is its original source: You hang it with bait onto a branch to kill wolves in a rather gruesome manner. That’s outlawed nowadays but you still see it on border forestry border stones, to mark wood, etc. The heraldic use derives from that, it symbolises presence or importance of forestry in the area the coat of arm represents. Not much forest around the Azov sea, though.
Those are not the Nazis you’re looking for. If you want to see, well not exactly nazis but the hot-bed of ultranationalists in the Ukrainian army have a look at the right sector regiment. Dylan Burns did an interview.
Next up: Someone’s going to claim that the Ukrainian army uses the “Iron Cross”. First off, the Bundeswehr still uses it, secondly, no the Ukrainians don’t use it you’re looking at the Cossack Cross, derived independently from the Templar Cross, unlike the Iron Cross not via the Teutonic Order. They’ve been using that thing for centuries.
EDIT: Oh wait I just remembered I’m completely banned from lemmygrad they won’t see this. Well, whatever.
Ok, so you’re saying that having them wearing those Nazi badges is fine because the imperialist state department from the country that hired a non negligible number of Nazis after the Germans capitulated said the nazi patch wearing azov combatants are not doing anything wrong?
And at the same time, using pepe the frog online is clearly alt-right?
Just like you believe when the US state department say Israel is doing nothing against human rights in Palestine?
There it is! Tankies are so “reasonable” being aligned with authoritarian warmongers. Idk why you proclaim to be so against nazis when you share so much of your ideology with them.
You acknowledge pepe the frog as an alt right fascist symbol on Internet memes. But when armed forces in Ukraine use SS and black sun on their garment, you think it’s fine. Did west reclaim swastika and other nazi symbols, then?
You don’t have to explain why fascist symbols are bad, there. You might find most lemmygraders to be pretty reasonable.
Lmfao, go suck Putin’s/Jinping’s dick elsewhere.
mournfully flipping the counter back to “0” on the “it has been X days since a turbolib said something deeply homophobic” sign
What’s homophobic about calling you morons submissives for dictators?
At which point did I defend Putin or Xi in this conversation? I used the same argument as you did to argue that there’s Nazi sympathetic fighters in the Ukrainian armed forces.
Would you defend soldiers fighting side by side Nazi symbols?
As you clearly appear to be unaware, Ukraine is not under “Nazi Leadership.” That’s something you were told in order to justify Russia’s attempts to conquer them for their resources and expand their own borders just as they have in the past.
Guilty of making use of hyperbole, whoah.
Now. Ukrainian military, its puppet leadership and its NATO allies are pretty accepting of fighting side by side, and providing weapons to Nazi sympathetic fighters.
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/12/europe/us-weapons-azov-brigade-ukraine-intl/index.html
Apparently CNN is now part of Russian propaganda?
Azov has gotten completely diluted by a gigantic influx of ordinary people, its hardcore Nazi times were over before they were even rolled into Ukraine’s overall command structure which came along with some more denazification. The Wolfsangel isn’t recognised as a far-right symbol in Ukraine by the general public so they kept it. It’s also not a clear-cut Nazi symbol even in Germany, you see it on plenty of coat of arms, it also has plenty of use in forestry which is its original source: You hang it with bait onto a branch to kill wolves in a rather gruesome manner. That’s outlawed nowadays but you still see it on border forestry border stones, to mark wood, etc. The heraldic use derives from that, it symbolises presence or importance of forestry in the area the coat of arm represents. Not much forest around the Azov sea, though.
Those are not the Nazis you’re looking for. If you want to see, well not exactly nazis but the hot-bed of ultranationalists in the Ukrainian army have a look at the right sector regiment. Dylan Burns did an interview.
Next up: Someone’s going to claim that the Ukrainian army uses the “Iron Cross”. First off, the Bundeswehr still uses it, secondly, no the Ukrainians don’t use it you’re looking at the Cossack Cross, derived independently from the Templar Cross, unlike the Iron Cross not via the Teutonic Order. They’ve been using that thing for centuries.
EDIT: Oh wait I just remembered I’m completely banned from lemmygrad they won’t see this. Well, whatever.
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Ok, so you’re saying that having them wearing those Nazi badges is fine because the imperialist state department from the country that hired a non negligible number of Nazis after the Germans capitulated said the nazi patch wearing azov combatants are not doing anything wrong?
And at the same time, using pepe the frog online is clearly alt-right?
Just like you believe when the US state department say Israel is doing nothing against human rights in Palestine?
You look very confused, in my opinion.
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There it is! Tankies are so “reasonable” being aligned with authoritarian warmongers. Idk why you proclaim to be so against nazis when you share so much of your ideology with them.
You acknowledge pepe the frog as an alt right fascist symbol on Internet memes. But when armed forces in Ukraine use SS and black sun on their garment, you think it’s fine. Did west reclaim swastika and other nazi symbols, then?