With the Ukraine War about to enter its third year, NATO continues sending weapons systems and false hope to Kyiv. These systems included antiquated variants of the M1 Abrams Main Battle Tank.
  • keepcarrot [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    191·
    4 months ago

    I find it interesting that there are apparently true believers out there who think the Abram’s is an ontologically godlike tank and that it’s historical record is not the result of overmatched technology and overwhelming air superiority

      • sweng@programming.dev
        67·
        4 months ago

        The Unrainian army is collapsing so bad they accidentally collapsed all the way into Kursk.

        What does it say about the Russian army that a collapsing enemy is still occupying large parts of Russia? Or does the Russian army simply not care? Are certain parts of Russia more Russian than orhers?

          • sweng@programming.dev
            25·
            4 months ago

            Ok, occupying small parts, if that makes you happier. Maybe so small that Russia does not care about it, nor the citizens living there.

            But that can’t be the case, because Russia seems to put a lot of effort into cleaeing out e.g. Donbass, yet there Ukraine still is “occupying” large areas of it.

            If Russia does not care, then stop fighting there. If Russia does care, then why do they have so much trouble with it, taking years and years to kick out “occupiers”. How can Russia tolerate such a situation? Or is it, maybe, the case that Russia can’t kick them out, despite the superior military? Which again goes back to my point about how impressivly bad Russia is performing, all things considered.

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
              92·
              4 months ago

              Last I checked, Russia evacuated the citizens living in these few villages, and now it’s become a cauldron for the AFU where they have thousands of troops stuck who can’t leave. Was real gift to Russia as even Forbes admits. Ukraine is losing twice as many vehicles in this debacle as they were previously. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/08/17/out-in-the-open-and-on-the-move-in-russias-kursk-oblast-ukrainian-forces-are-vulnerable-and-losing-lots-of-armored-vehicles/

              Guess what’s gonna happen once this “offensive” burns itself out. Russia is going to do a counter attack and open a new front in Sumy region against the depleted and demoralized AFU.

              • sweng@programming.dev
                36·
                4 months ago

                Last I checked, Russia evacuated the citizens living in these few villages, and now it’s become a cauldron for the AFU where they have thousands of troops stuck who can’t leave.

                And why exactly did the Russian military allow this to happen? Considering the state of the Ukrainian military with outdated tech even some mininal protection should have sufficied? If I care about someone, I protect them so that nothing bad happens to them. I bust don’t ignore them, then go “oops” and do the very minimal amount of work, which would not even had been necessary had I done my job in the first place.

                • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
                  83·
                  4 months ago

                  Seems pretty obvious why the Russian military would want to expand the front creating logistics problems for Ukraine. Creating a large front has literally been the doctrine since WW2 times. Ukraine is now stuck in Kursk because politically they can’t just pull back, so now they have to keep feeding valuable resources into a battle that has zero strategic value for Ukraine. Meanwhile, this is weakening actual strategic places like Pokrovsk. Once Russia takes that, it splits the front in half between north and south which will make it impossible for AFU to reinforce its southern forces. This will create a huge cauldron where Ukrainian troops are trapped. Even mainstream western media understands this, yet here you are.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
          73·
          4 months ago

          Kursk is in fact one of the major factors accelerating the collapse as even western media admits now. If Ukraine couldn’t hold well prepared positions in Donbas, then they obviously have no hope of holding anything in Kursk either. All it did was stretch already thinning units to a new front and create a logistics nightmare for Ukraine. Also, if you think a few villages in Kursk constitutes large parts of Russia then it’s clear that you haven’t seen a map in your life.

          • sweng@programming.dev
            45·
            4 months ago

            Kusk? Did you already forget about Donetsk, Luhansk, Kharkiv, and other “Russian” regions partially occupied by Ukrainian troops? This just underlines my point that certain areas seem to be more Russian than others, despite being part of the Russian Federation. It seems even Russia forgets they annexed the areas.

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
              84·
              4 months ago

              You mean places where Russia is actively advancing right now? https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/08/europe/ukraine-military-morale-desertion-intl-cmd/index.html

              This just underlines my point that certain areas seem to be more Russian than others, despite being part of the Russian Federation. It seems even Russia forgets they annexed the areas.

              The only thing this underlies the fact that you’re utterly clueless on the subject you’re attempting to debate. Russian military strategy is to defeat the Ukrainian army, this will involve letting go of territory when it makes strategic sense to do so. Even western media openly admits that Kursk incursion isn’t going to last long.

              • sweng@programming.dev
                22·
                4 months ago

                I’m pretty sure people in the affected areas would rather not be evacuated and have their lived destroyed, don’t you? Is Russia unable to accommodate that? Why?

                • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
                  22·
                  4 months ago

                  Because it’s a war, and saving lives of thousands of troops can take priority over accommodating people living in a few villages. You should let Russian general staff know of your brilliant military strategies though.

  • sweng@programming.dev
    89·
    4 months ago

    The fact that Ukraine, using antiquated hand-me-downs, still manages to hold off Russia, with access to state-of-the-art technology, is both truly impressive of Ukraine, and truly impressive of Russia (but for different reasons).