They are worse than the terms they got after Trump met with EU Heads. So yes, you should not accept the terms Trump shat out his ass directly after talking to Putin.
One of the main points is to get a ceasefire first.
Ukraine’s bargaining position gets worse the longer the war drags on. Unless there’s genuine reason to believe the tides will change in a lasting way, Ukraine’s best time to bargain is today, and every day following will be worse. Russia will not stop until they have the 4 oblasts, Ukraine stops oppressing ethnic Russians in their territory, and Russia has certification of Ukraine’s neutrality to NATO. These are the terms they have regularly re-affirmed, Ukraine can either continue to push an increasingly unpopular war until this happens anyways, try to bargain now so as to force concessions, or hope for a miracle and a changing of the tides.
The 2019 RAND report gameplan for this conflict makes it clear that, if the worst case scenario happens and Russia gets stronger over the course of the conflict rather than being depleted as intended, an offramp should be found immediately to minimize Russian gains. Ukraine is losing the war, and supplies are now limited to a dripfeed. Their suzerain is stating pretty clearly that they expect compliance. – Logically, in line with US think-tanks, the next step is to assassinate Zelensky and find someone more conciliatory.
Well they called it peace, so it’s totally different from surrender. There’s no way Russia would ignore the treaty, amass forces at the border, and attempt a push straight for the capitol… again.
Why should he accept them?
What, practically speaking, is a viable alternative?
May I introduce you to the concept of “to the last Ukrainian”? :)
Hey you haven’t forgotten that there are people dying over this, have you?
Putin could stop the war at any second. If the terms are as bad as they are dictated by trump, you should definitely not accept them.
Are they worse than the terms you’re going to get in another 6 months?
Has your position gotten better in the last 6 months?
They are worse than the terms they got after Trump met with EU Heads. So yes, you should not accept the terms Trump shat out his ass directly after talking to Putin.
One of the main points is to get a ceasefire first.
Ukraine’s bargaining position gets worse the longer the war drags on. Unless there’s genuine reason to believe the tides will change in a lasting way, Ukraine’s best time to bargain is today, and every day following will be worse. Russia will not stop until they have the 4 oblasts, Ukraine stops oppressing ethnic Russians in their territory, and Russia has certification of Ukraine’s neutrality to NATO. These are the terms they have regularly re-affirmed, Ukraine can either continue to push an increasingly unpopular war until this happens anyways, try to bargain now so as to force concessions, or hope for a miracle and a changing of the tides.
Zelensky could end it at any second too
End the war or something idk
Yeah, if he did, it might be necessary to hold elections even. And that would just be terrible!
Self preservation would be one motivation. .
The 2019 RAND report gameplan for this conflict makes it clear that, if the worst case scenario happens and Russia gets stronger over the course of the conflict rather than being depleted as intended, an offramp should be found immediately to minimize Russian gains. Ukraine is losing the war, and supplies are now limited to a dripfeed. Their suzerain is stating pretty clearly that they expect compliance. – Logically, in line with US think-tanks, the next step is to assassinate Zelensky and find someone more conciliatory.
Well they called it peace, so it’s totally different from surrender. There’s no way Russia would ignore the treaty, amass forces at the border, and attempt a push straight for the capitol… again.