On August 7th, US polling giant Gallup published the remarkable results of a survey of Ukrainians. Public support for Kiev “fighting until victory” has plummeted to a record low “across all segments” of the population, “regardless of region or demographic group.” In a “nearly complete reversal from public opinion in 2022,” 69% of citizens “favor a negotiated end to the war as soon as possible.” Just 24% wish to keep fighting. However, vanishingly few believe the proxy war will end anytime soon.

The reasons for Ukrainian pessimism on this point are unstated, but an obvious explanation is the intransigence of President Volodymyr Zelensky, encouraged by his overseas backers - Britain in particular. London’s reverie of breaking up Russia into readily-exploitable chunks dates back centuries, and became turbocharged in the wake of the February 2014 Maidan coup. In July that year, a precise blueprint for the current proxy conflict was published by the Institute for Statecraft, a NATO/MI6 cutout founded by veteran British military intelligence apparatchik Chris Donnelly.

In response to the Donbass civil war, Statecraft advocated targeting Moscow with a variety of “anti-subversive measures”. This included “economic boycott, breach of diplomatic relations,” as well as “propaganda and counter-propaganda, pressure on neutrals.” The objective was to produce “armed conflict of the old-fashioned sort” with Russia, which “Britain and the West could win.” While we are now witnessing in real-time the brutal unravelling of Donnelly’s monstrous plot, Anglo-American designs of using Ukraine as a beachhead for all-out war with Moscow date back far further.

In August 1957, the CIA secretly drew up elaborate plans for an invasion of Ukraine by US special forces. It was hoped neighbourhood anti-Communist agitators would be mobilized as footsoldiers to assist in the effort. A detailed 200-page report, Resistance Factors and Special Forces Areas, set out demographic, economic, geographical, historical and political factors throughout the then-Soviet Socialist Republic that could facilitate, or impede, Washington’s quest to ignite local insurrection, and in turn the USSR’s ultimate collapse.

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‘Strongly Anti-Nationalist’

The CIA’s invasion plan never formally came to pass. Yet, areas of Ukraine forecast by the Agency to be most welcoming of US special forces were precisely where support for the Maidan coup was highest. Moreover, in a largely unknown chapter of the Maidan saga, fascist Right Sector militants were bussed en masse to Crimea prior to Moscow’s seizure of the peninsula. Had they succeeded in overrunning the territory, Right Sector would’ve fulfilled the CIA’s objective, as outlined in Resistance Factors and Special Forces Areas.


A civilian defence barricade constructed to prevent Right Sector entering Crimea, February 2014

Given what transpired elsewhere in Ukraine following February 2014, other sections of the CIA report take on a distinctly eerie character. For instance, despite its strategic position facing the Black Sea, the Agency warned against attempting to foment anti-Soviet rebellion in Odessa. The agency noted the city is “the most cosmopolitan area in Ukraine, with a heterogeneous population including significant numbers of Greeks, Moldovans and Bulgarians, as well as Russians and Jews.” As such:

“Odessa…has developed a less nationalistic character. Historically, it has been considered more Russian than Ukrainian territory. There was little evidence of nationalist or anti-Russian sentiment here during the Second World War, and the city…was in fact controlled by a strongly anti-nationalist local administration [during the conflict].”

Odessa became a key battleground between pro- and anti-Maidan elements, from the moment the protests erupted in November 2013. By March the next year, Russophone Ukrainians had occupied the city’s historic Kulykove Pole Square, and were calling for a referendum on the establishment of an “Odessa Autonomous Republic”. Tensions came to a head on May 2nd, when fascist football ultras - who subsequently formed Azov Battalion - stormed Odessa and forced dozens of anti-Maidan activists into Trade Unions House, before setting it ablaze.

In all, 42 people were killed and hundreds injured, while Odessa’s anti-Maidan movement was comprehensively neutralised. In March this year, the European Court of Human Rights issued a damning ruling against Kiev over the massacre. It concluded local police and fire services “deliberately” failed to respond appropriately to the inferno, and authorities insulated culpable officials and perpetrators from prosecution despite possessing incontrovertible evidence. Lethal “negligence” by officials on the day, and ever after, was found to go far “beyond an error of judgment or carelessness.”

The ECHR was apparently unwilling to consider the incineration of anti-Maidan activists was an intentional and premeditated act of mass murder, conceived and directed by Kiev’s US-installed fascist government. However, the findings of a Ukrainian parliamentary commission point ineluctably towards this conclusion. Whether, in turn, the Odessa massacre was intended to trigger Russian intervention in Ukraine, thus precipitating “armed conflict of the old-fashioned sort” with Moscow that “Britain and the West could win” is a matter of speculation - although the Institute for Statecraft was present in the country at the time.

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    They bussed in fascist fighters? is this toward what’s going on in the Sahel, and possibly the Levant?

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    I don’t think this is remarkable. People get worn out by war. At some point they’re willing to compromise.

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    “A negotiated end to the war” probably doesn’t mean “surrender unconditionally” as many .ml residents hope.

    Ending the war without rock solid security guarantees just leaves Ukraine open to further Russian imperialist aggression in the future.

    And as a side note, can I also confirm if the bar for evidence is so low in this instance that unsourced grainy scans of documents posted on tankie Reddit subs are considered authoritative?

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      “A negotiated end to the war” probably doesn’t mean “surrender unconditionally” as many .ml residents hope.

      You don’t know what we hope[1][2].

      Ending the war without rock solid security guarantees just leaves Ukraine open to further Russian imperialist aggression in the future.

      Russian “imperialist aggression” isn’t what this was in the first place[3][4][5][6].

      And as a side note, can I also confirm if the bar for evidence is so low in this instance that unsourced grainy scans of documents posted on tankie Reddit subs are considered authoritative?

      Unsourced my ass: https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP81-01043R002300220007-1.pdf

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        You don’t know what we hope[1][2].

        Is word salad still on the menu?

        Russian “imperialist aggression” isn’t what this was in the first place[3][4][5][6].

        This is what I’m talking about.

        When presented with two truths, you’ll accept the pro-Russian one without criticism as it’s what you want to believe.

        Your logic is:

        West = bad
        Russia is anti-west
        Russia = good

        For example, I bet you believe every dubious claim made about genocide in Donbass from pro-Russian sources, but you probably believe Bucha and Mariupol are false flag attacks made by “Ukrainian Nazis”

        Not because it’s the truth, but because it fits your worldview.

        Unsourced my ass:

        Thank you, why couldn’t the article have actually linked this instead of a reddit thread??

        Also how relevant are cold war documents to today’s situation? Ukraine was part of the Soviet union when this document was created. Do you really believe the KGB wasn’t producing similar documents? Look at the “Foundations of Geopolitics” a book that is actually still influencing Putin’s decision-making today.

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          Your logic is:

          West = bad Russia is anti-west Russia = good

          Peak interpretation of geopolitical issues that was famously proposed by davel. Except if they did propose this, which they didn’t, they’d be right (with some revisions here and there) anyway.

          West bad because West do bad bad things to Global South.

          Russia is “anti-west”, but only by circumstance of not allowing themselves to be sold to the highest bidder in Washington, despite Russia themselves having had requested to join their Kolonial Konquest Klub (read: NATO), which make Papa Sam and Santa Claus very angry!!

          Russia is therefore good…for the Global South as they get a tiny yet much needed breathing room from being brutally exploited while cheerleaders for Western imperialism like you blabber on about some bullshit.

          Does this bedtime-story-esque diction help you understand things better?

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          It’s so cute when you guys try to psychoanalyze people who’s heuristic is vastly more developed than your own. You always just end up reversing and projecting your own jingoist ideology, and ascribing to Marxists the lazy tribalism that you’re afraid to acknowledge in your own thinking.

          You have never been us, but almost every single one of us remembers being you.

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          Edit to add: Okay I see the Reddit link in the article. That’s about a different thing, namely that the tankies were right about the 1956 CIA-backed fascist “color revolution” in Hungary.


          Is word salad still on the menu?

          Sorry to hear about your literacy skills.

          Your logic is:

          West = bad
          Russia is anti-west
          Russia = good

          That’s not my logic; that’s your straw man.

          For example, I bet you believe every dubious claim made about genocide in Donbass from pro-Russian sources

          I’m not getting any of this from Russian sources. All the sources I linked to are Western ones.

          but you probably believe Bucha and Mariupol are false flag attacks made by “Ukrainian Nazis”

          I’ve never even heard such theories, so I don’t know what you’re talking about. These are just more straw men.

          Thank you, why couldn’t the article have actually linked this instead of a reddit thread??

          It’s literally in the article. That’s where I got it.

          Look at the “Foundations of Geopolitics” a book that is actually still influencing Putin’s decision-making today.

          It is not influencing Putin’s decision making. Dugin isn’t “Putin’s brain.“ Nobody but fascists listen to Dugin[1][2][3].

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            but you probably believe Bucha and Mariupol are false flag attacks made by “Ukrainian Nazis”

            Btw. Bucha was actually a false flag, one of Czech mercenaries admitted in court he was part of death squad there. Mariupol wasn’t a false flag, but azovites took a lot of civilians as human shields and hindered evacuation of others.