• Ilixtze@lemmy.ml
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    19 hours ago

    Some gringo in the comments: “Something something Uyghurs, something something mass surveillance, winnie poo”

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      4 hours ago

      The only muslim people they suddenly “pretend” to care about because their media hides the fact that they are muslim.

      Muslims everywhere else are fair game.

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        Lmao, Tibetan is literally taught in schools in Tibet and is the official language of Tibet Autonomous Region. These obscure propaganda articles hiding the Truth are hilarious! 😂

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      17 hours ago

      Liberals and real actual gaza genocide: 🥱

      Liberals and fake Uyghur genocide: Real shit

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          It is? Their is no evidence. It’s a fabrication invented by a German evangelical on a self proclaimed “mission from god” to destroy communism.

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            No, it isnt. We have geographic evidence as well as countless testimonies of the Uyghur people.

            For some reason when it comes to China/Uyghur muslims, people have no issue dismissing their genocide and thinking it’s okay.

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              I was in Urumqi recently enough and I can tell you this they are some of the most pro government people I have ever talked with lmao they love that ETIM was kicked out.

              You have gusano testimony from the likes of Rushan Abbas (Guantanamo bay torturer) It’s not real.

              Also tell me about this geographic evidence? Pictures of prisons that you decided are camps because we’re evil scary Chinese people?

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                I never said “you’re evil scary Chinese people”. The Chinese state however, is another story (authoritarian— but I know you’re apathetic towards authoritarianism). I realize now that this may be evoking some sort of nationalistic reaction out of you, though.

                I didn’t “decide”— like I said, independent journalists and satellite imaging. And no, it’s not reducible to “Western evil scary propaganda” like you’re making it out to be.

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                  authoritarian— but I know you’re apathetic towards authoritarianism

                  All governments/states are authoritarian. That is their nature. No government is excluded from this.

                  The difference with some governments over others is who wields that authority: the majority of working class people, or the minority of capitalist class people.

                  I’d prefer to live in a state that advocates for my best interests as a working class individual rather than submit to capitalists that want to extract everything that I’m worth for themselves and hoard for no good reason.

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                  The Chinese state that has 95+% support from the population and is made up of a representative of Chinese people.

                  White people decided we’re evil and you just go along with it without any investigation because you’re racist and it confirms your biases

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                    Ah yes because government-manufactured numbers hold value— you must think Russia is a democracy too, no?

                    Oh, and now I’m racist. Great. Critiquing a state means I’m racist. Logical.

                    I have nothing against Chinese people. If you’re defending things like suppression, I don’t care what colour you are, I don’t like that.

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              There is no genocide of Uyghurs. Uyghur genocide atrocity propaganda akin to claiming that there’s “white genocide” in South Africa, Christian genocide in Nigeria, or that Hamas sexually assaulted babies in Operation Al-Aqsa Flood.

              In the case of Xinjiang, the area is crucial in the Belt and Road Initiative, so the west backed sepratist groups in order to destabilize the region. China responded with vocational programs and de-radicalization efforts, which the west then twisted into claims of “genocide.” Nevermind that the west responds to seperatism with mass violence, and thus re-education programs focused on rehabilitation are far more humane, the tool was used both for outright violence by the west into a useful narrative to feed its own citizens.

              The best and most comprehensive resource I have seen so far is Qiao Collective’s Xinjiang: A Resource and Report Compilation. Qiao Collective is explicitly pro-PRC, but this is an extremely comprehensive write-up of the entire background of the events, the timeline of reports, and real and fake claims.

              I also recommend reading the UN report and China’s response to it. These are the most relevant accusations and responses without delving into straight up fantasy like Adrian Zenz, professional propagandist for the Victims of Communism Foundation, does.

              Tourists do go to Xinjiang all the time as well. You can watch videos like this one on YouTube, though it obviously isn’t going to be a comprehensive view of a complex situation like this.