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  • I’m a big defender of China when the “China Bad” crowd comes out, but this graph is meaningless beyond what people’s perceptions are.

    Real trade unions are banned. All must be part of the party, workers rights are routinely not enforced, and given the lattitude the government has to act, there isn’t really much of an excuse.

    The CCP enjoy massive support, though, this is undeniable. The reasons for this support is debatable and vary from person to person.

    I for one, very much enjoy when the Chinese government does things in line with my socialist ideals. But let’s not pretend like they’re actually keeping the capitalists in check. There are many, many billionaires in China, something that ought not be possible under an actual socialist country.

    It doesn’t take a genius to look at their system of voting to quickly conclude that you don’t really have a say, the People’s Congress functions as a rubber stamp for what the inner party has already decided.

    Again, my opinions aside, people in China generally are supportive of the government at this present time.


  • I feel like this is shifting the focus to imperialism, where the US is overwhelmingly and undeniably worse.

    However, domestically, if you wanna pretend that someone as a random citizen, has any chance of receiving political representation in China, well you enjoy your fantasy.

    The US and China are both deeply undemocratic places. I’m saying this as someone from neither country.

    Anyone who’s actually been to China would know this. It is authoritarian. It’s not even something viewed as bad by most people in China. It’s just the way things are there.

    There is pretty strong support for the government there, albeit that could be argued as product of censorship, repression and also genuine support. Many see the CCP as having done a lot of good things which they are grateful for, which in addition to the bad things, in fairness, they have done.

    I’m getting kinda tired of some leftists knee jerking “China Good”, just as much as I’m getting kinda tired of the “China Bad” crowd, when the truth is neither wholly good nor wholly bad.

    We can be leftists and not have a hard-on for any country claiming to be socialist, you know



  • And famously they fired all QAs years ago so there’s nobody to test before releasing.

    It all makes sense now.

    There’s no QA to bonk people on the head.

    Who the fuck’s idea was Outlook (New)? Like half the features don’t exist. And some of the actually useful new features simply don’t work (looking at you," pop-out" reading pane view option. Where’s my popped out reading pane Microsoft??? Did ya forget to test it? Turns out, yes)








  • Top comment is about how Chinese censorship is not overt, but behind the scenes to stop your speech from spreading. It’s definitely censorship, but no one is going to arrest you for criticising the government online (to a point), they’ll just stop you from reaching others with your message.

    I’m just saying that there definitely is censorship, just not what some “China Bad” people imagine.

    My comment was in opposition to the “China Good” crowd who also pretend like everything bad said about China is not true.

    Reality is inbetween, in my opinion. It’s a country with good and bad points.



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    I think the top comment is the real answer on this.

    There is censorship in China, as well as in the west. They just operate very differently.

    In the west, outside the US, I think it’d be fairly easy to argue there’s more censorship in China. (Even with the pretty depressing clamp down on right to protest, and suppressing of anti-israel speech in many forms happening at the moment)

    Equally though, people massively overblow what censorship is actually like in China. I’m not gonna get disappeared next time I go to China just for this comment. Or even if I overtly criticised the government on real-name social media.

    tl;dr “China bad!” and “China so good!” are both equally annoying positions to find on the internet.

    Reality is nuanced, but that doesn’t seem to make people happy.




  • My 5D chess move would be:

    • Go: ok bet, you wanna shut it down? Your stores are now in immediate administration under some eminent domain law
    • In order to mitigate political backlash, make it known that they’re able to sell their business to someone else, or the city, provided that the subsequent owner is bound to either run it, or sell it to the city

    Watch them get mad because you haven’t technically seized it, they can still sell the business (maintaining the sacrosanct rights to private property capitalists love so much), you’ve just prevented them from closing it down, and everyone gets to keep their jobs :)



  • It’s not the multiple partners that are a problem in my opinion (You do you. Polyamory is not for me, but no hate), it’s the many-to-one relationships. Even in cases where an immoral power dynamic doesn’t exist, you’re still setting up for societal shenanigans if it’s consistently many women to men, or vice versa, which seems prudent to avoid.

    That being said, monogamy in a legal sense has probably only persisted so long because involving more than 2 people would be a massive headache for the courts lol

    Probably only works in countries where one “partner” has more rights than others.