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  • That’s easy to do. You just check that the username exists. If someone enters a wrong username/password pair, you can still check that the username exists, but how do you know that the user intended to log in with that username? You would also have to check every other username to see if the password matches, and that can’t be done with a simple search because you need to compute a different hash for each user you check. Then if the username exists and the password also happens to match someone else’s password, then what do you report? Should you even report it? Because doing so reveals that someone had that specific password, and if the list of usernames is publicly available (which they often are, or could become public through a leak of some sort), then you can brute force over a small set of usernames to match them up.










  • You know what else takes far less energy than training a single model? One query. Yet, you argue that it’s the main contributor to the energy consumption. Why is that? It’s because there’s a very high volume of them, thus bringing up the total energy consumption. At the end of the day, it’s this total energy consumption that matters, not the cost of doing it once. Look at the total energy expenditure of training, not just the cost of doing it once.

    So, it’s kind of weird t0 single AI energy use out here as some form of exceptional evil.

    We’re talking about AI here because that’s the topic of this thread. I’ve never seen anyone say that it’s the only problem worth addressing. Plus, if you want to compare energy usage of ads (or anything else) compared to AI, you would first need to know how much energy AI is actually using.