“Sideload” is such a dumb name for what is just the act of installing apps of your own choosing.
May as well call it “jayloading” 😒
Sidewalking
You’re missing the point. It is “just” the act of downloading and installing, which were seen as normal things to do. However, by calling it “sideloading” they can then attach any meaning, any implication they wish. This is now something different and wierd, not something normal people do, does your mom sideload? I’m pretty sure the battle for control of your phone that you bought was lost as soon as we allowed them to call it sideloading.
I’m not missing any point at all, your post is in essential agreement with mine, lol.
The name might well have come from the community, since the whole app store model is as old as the modern smartphone, and downloading a different way
is new, while possible, was always for power users.If there had been a more normal software ecosystem from the get-go that would have been nice. Actual regulation to enforce device freedom would also be good.
Being able to download and install software from somewhere that isn’t the app store has been available the entire time, it is not “new”. I remember downloading .apk files and installing them on my first android phone, and it just worked. It wasn’t until my 3rd or 4th phone that you had to start enabling “unknown sources” to install a .apk, and they have been working to make it harder ever since.
Shit, I wrote that wrong. Trying to do too many things at once.
The majority of people
Stop using such shit excuses. Keep Android Open!!
The majority of people have 2 arms. So why bother with prosthetics or research into biofeedback?
See, it’s flawless logic /s
The majority of people are stupid. Who would have thought.
the majority of people would like to have a piece of my paycheck, so I’m giving some away
-statements dreamed by the utterly deranged
-cunts that write shitty articles like this
I feel like this is terribly unfunny but mom didn’t make no bitch so I’m not deleting it
Indian accent: “Alright mam, when you install this app, I will contact you tomorrow and we can proceed with the transfer. For security reasons, don’t tell anyone you received this call.”
Right, the real solution is not letting old people answer phone calls anymore, I guess, lol.
Whats even better is that they usually just use team viewer for remote access, which is ON THE PLAY STORE
That’s so much extra work and chance for them to ask someone they know.
The real sollution is to lock India off the internet until they crack down on all their scammers.
There are scammer call centers in many countries throughout the world. So unless you want to start shutting off a lot of developing nations from the internet, that’s not a good solution.
It’s also not a good solution because there will always be a workaround.
Ban phone calls? It’s long overdue.
Why do we even need to have a phone number just to have access to the internet on the go?
The work around is to get Jason Statham to live out his Beekeeper role IRL.
Is this winston churchhill?
Hey maybe you’re not racist, maybe you’re just watching too many youtube videos
I basically never watch Youtube, its kind of cancer and Google is a spyware company.
And this isn’t about race, its about a country cleaning up its own act. I feel basically the same way about Russia, for example. There isn’t an online servixe or system that sould not drasticly improve if Russians were blocked from the larger web. Its basically a factory for misinformation and assholes.
Don’t worry buddy, I get it. I feel the same way about USA
The question is then if you feel the same about Russia, China, Iran, and Israel?
I mean, yes, but not nearly as much
Yes, there are many problematic states, probably all of them. That’s why people thought it was sus when you singled out india.
My advice: Download a geo-IP database and firewall yourself in.
Also, it locks alternative sources to the Play Store out. How convenient, right?
grapheneOS wont be affected by this so, atleast we dont loose all hope
Yeah, but those few million users are not global-market-relevant.
It’s still good.
GrapheneOS unaffected - > more enthusiasts switch to it - > more funding - > better UX - > more interest, more adoption from less tech savvy people, possible professional grapheneOS installation services (think a guy helping gam gam install windows for a bit of cash, to start)
And so begins the beautiful cycle of mainstream adoption of something great
Or at least that’s what I tell myself when the current tech world scares me at night
Graphene, at least in its current state, is dependent on Google continuing to allow Pixel phone bootloader’s to be unlocked and relocked after a new OS is installed, and is dependent on Google for receiving timely upstream security update patches as well. Given Google’s current direction my guess is that both these things might be threatened in the future.
a dream for the FOSS, which i hope becomes real
Are you mistaking GrapheneOS with LineageOS? GrapheneOS is for security enthusiasts, too inconvenient and limited to devices for me.
Edit: typo
No, I mean grapheneOS. From my findings you get pretty much everything that a normal android phone gets, except contactless payments because of the google and apple duopoly on that front.
You can set up multiple users / containers, separate out google bs from your own private life, etc, all pretty intuitively if I remember right.
I’ve only heard of LineageOS here and there. I’m fully unfamiliar with that one
With arguments like those that person already seems like an astroturfer IMO. Also sideloading is the language corporations used to delegitimize decentralized app installation.
The classic “you are too dumb to choose” if only education was a thing…
We are at a time where governments and corporations actively dumb things down until they can make this excuse, instead of actually doing what is right for the people, which is investing in education and treating people as intelligent and autonomous beings.
I thought surely this was a joke. … I thought.
Sent from GrapheneOS
“ThE mAjOrItY oF pEoPLe DoN’t AxUaLlY nEeD sIdElOaDiNg”
Fucking bootlicker
Makes me think of this overgrown pinky toe.
Are there any real statistics about the real number of scams deployed via “sideloading non verified apps?”
I do not know the number. But I don’t think there are that many cases. Most scams I’ve seen have been via web or via a normal app downloaded on the appStore.
Scams require some level of idiocy, complacency or distractedness to pull off. If you’re going out of your way to install non-standard apps you’re likely paying enough attention not to fall for it.
If youre getting a mark to install something on their phone, you’d probably have just as much luck getting them to sent you a Western Union cheque.
The problem is this is already being used to do political censorship so any restriction on what users can install on their device is harmful, because it’s not just weird nerds but people need to use other apps like ice watch
As someone who replaces “core” apps with FOSS alternatives, the 24 hour wait is quite a punishment.
We need those phone shops that actually can hack your phones back, just like when we use custom OS in nokia phones pre-smartphones, normalize custom ROM again.
How does that affect you more than once? Isn’t this just after initial setup?
Heads up that you should still be able to sideload over ADB (the origin of the term on android, after all) without the wait, so setting up a new device before the 24 hours are up is still doable.
I can get behind a delay to enable side loading and the warning screens are nothing to me since I can just click past them. Though the delay should be more like 30-60 minutes at the most.
The real problem is requiring devs (even outside of the play store) to identify themselves. That is ridiculous and does absolutely nothing to secure the device for the user. (It only secures it under Google for their interests)
I mean I get the idea of the forced restart and the general waiting time - assuming a scammer wants you to install a “side loaded” app, it will disconnect their call with you, of they’re calling you on that phone. Same for a waiting period that forces the scammer to either hang around on the phone with you for a long time or to call again some time in the future.
But 24h?
My elderly parents are getting a continuous amount of scam calls now practically every day for I don’t know how long. All because they one time actually took a call and talked a while with the scammer. I am not at their home a lot, but last time blocked numbers on their handset landline phone. It seems the scammer noticed and switched numbers as they do.
Point is, this has been going on for weeks or months. 24h are nothing in waiting time for a scammer. It just forces them to do yet another call a bit later.
Scammers spoof the caller ID. Blocking numbers doesn’t do shit because those aren’t their real numbers.
It does create extra blocks, but isn’t going to be as effective as eg. The helmet law for stopping motorcycle theft. (Compulsory helmet -> cannot just take any unattended motorcycle without being sus)
Sideload deez nuts
Why would it first help people and then hurt them?
strange sequence of events
Patrick you should go fuck yourself, you are not different from that low life systemd age field PR asshole
