• Simulation6@sopuli.xyz
    59·
    1 month ago

    We had some British software developers visit our group once and the contrast was stark. They wore suits and business dresses and we wore jeans and t-shirts. I mentioned the difference and one said they were expected to look professional. One of my gang said we were expected to write good code.

    • Zoko Argen@feddit.ukEnglish
      8·
      1 month ago

      That might have just been because they were visiting, In my experience with software devs over here (three of my friends in the roles, and me having applied for some) it is more so jeans and t-shirt, at a push business casual, never suits though unless it’s a posh function

    • Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
      2·
      1 month ago

      I don’t know if it’s autism or what but you can’t make think that a dress shirt and regular shirt are not just fabrics and neither are more or less proper and that it’s as real as the tooth fairy.

  • Fleur_@aussie.zone
    615·
    1 month ago

    I feel like Americans would freak out in the most incredible way if they had hs uniforms

      • burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de
        4·
        1 month ago

        I think 3 of the dozen or so public schools around where I grew up had uniforms (lucky me, I went to one of them, ugh), while every private school (90% of which were some flavor of christian) had them. Most were more along the lines of ‘dress code’ than uniform though. I’m remembering khaki pants and bland colored polos more so than the blazer/tie/coat thing. It’s probably because it’s hot as balls on leather in the sun around here, so anything more than that would be killing kids or the AC budget.

    • Harvey656@lemmy.world
      5·
      1 month ago

      I’m currently living in Texas near thr Dallas area and almost all schools here have uniforms and clear plastic backpacks. It’s odd to see for someone who never dealt with such things but its the norm here.

      • Test_Tickles@lemmy.world
        1·
        1 month ago

        They also aren’t allowed cell phones or smart watches. Gotta make sure they don’t have any defensive weapons or ability to call for help.

    • rarWars@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      5·
      1 month ago

      I’m American, I had a uniform, and idk, I kinda liked it. Didn’t have to think about what to wear in the morning.

    • LilB0kChoy@midwest.social
      52·
      1 month ago

      I feel like anyone would freak out in the most incredible way if they had their freedom of choice and autonomy suddenly stripped away.

      Uniforms aren’t part of the culture in US public education. There’s also conflicting studies on whether uniforms even make a difference so it’s not like there’s a clear argument for them.

      Also, while uniforms aren’t standard in public schools there is typically a dress code students are expected to follow.

          • Fleur_@aussie.zone
            46·
            1 month ago

            Wearing a uniform = having your freedom of choice and autonomy taken away.

            You’re delusional bruh

            • Genius@lemmy.zip
              4·
              1 month ago

              So you’re saying kids who go to a school with uniforms have the freedom to choose their clothes?

              • Fleur_@aussie.zone
                26·
                1 month ago

                See how far your delusions of thinking you can wear whatever you want get you by catching a train naked. We all have uniforms. Freedom to choose your clothes is a fucking stupid take on uniform policy. Why don’t you use your freedom of movement and touch some grass.

            • LilB0kChoy@midwest.social
              2·
              1 month ago

              Uniforms aren’t part of the culture in US public education.

              Also, while uniforms aren’t standard in public schools there is typically a dress code students are expected to follow.

              Please don’t engage in a straw man argument. I specifically said “if they had their freedom of choice and autonomy suddenly stripped away”.

              Uniforms aren’t part of the culture for the majority of students in the US. If that switched overnight then yes, they would reasonably “freak out”.

              Your generalized statement is “delusional”. There are plenty of private schools in the US that require uniforms, numerous jobs that require a specific uniform, and pretty much all businesses have a dress code.

              So yes, going from a standard where no uniform is required in a school to having to wear one, especially if it was mandated without warning or input from those it affects would constitute “having your freedom of choice and autonomy taken away”.

              Freedom of choice is the ability to make decisions and take actions based on one’s own preferences and desires, without undue external constraints or coercion.

              Freedom of autonomy refers to the capacity of an individual to make their own choices and be self-governing, free from external constraints or coercion.

  • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
    301·
    1 month ago

    Every time I go to my kid’s school, I am amazed at the difference between my day and now.

    That time I went, there were kids just in pajamas and slippers. Not just one or two, dozens, and it wasn’t some special day.

    Then there’s the dressier kids in lounge pants and whatever giant tshirt they pulled out of a drawer (or laundry basket) that were obviously their version of pajamas. Shit, one girl had very obviously rolled out of bed, thrown some leggings under her nightgown, slipped into crocs and jumped on the bus.

    It’s pretty cool tbh. Just no fucks given for meaningless frippery unless the individual kid/family wants it. Most of the kids were relaxed, nobody giving them shit for the way they’re dressed, staff not even noticing at all. That’s the way it should be imo. Whatever gets the kids in their seats and keeps everyone relatively engaged.

    Yeah, there were still plenty of jeans and t-shirt sorts, a few of the button up shirt variants, and a handful of clothes hounds. But nobody was giving anyone shit about the clothes. From what my kid says, that wasn’t just the case for the hour or so i was there that day.

    We insist on clothes that are weather appropriate and acceptable for an emergency, but beyond that after seeing the norms there, we stopped giving a fuck.

    • Denvil@lemmy.ml
      3·
      1 month ago

      My highschool experience (I’m 19, so not that long ago), was pretty much exclusively t-shirts and jeans. In fact I never wear anything BUT jeans. I uh… I even wear them to bed which has me labelled as a psychopath by the majority

      • tomenzgg@midwest.socialEnglish
        3·
        1 month ago

        I mean, you definitely are but, considering the sheer efficiency you can achieve, nothing but respect from over here.

      • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
        1·
        1 month ago

        I’m fairly often going to sleep in jeans too. I buy comfy jeans for one thing; nothing that’s going to bind anything sensitive. I’m also prone to bouts of insomnia, which means getting up and down a good bit. I like my stuff with me, when I’m rambling around the house. Since I have pockets full of useful things that I’ve also made fairly comfy to move around with, I don’t have any issues sleeping with full pockets either, if I can sleep at all.

        Besides, I can rest easy knowing they no matter what happens, I have one less thing to get ready in an emergency.

    • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
      3·
      1 month ago

      My high school look started off so extra. It pivoted so slightly, yet thoroughly, to whatever the opposite of extra is, that if I described it and dropped a location I’d probably dox myself.

    • odelik@lemmy.today
      1·
      1 month ago

      I bet we’ve met at a house party held by one of the Sam’s from Center School. That or a Burner “art fundraiser/party”.

      See you on the dance floor.

        • odelik@lemmy.today
          2·
          1 month ago

          I mean, Wallingford has some awesome peeps too. I’m not “from” here, but was brought into the fold by some locals 15 years ago and have had many house party encounters with people that have lived here their entire lives and families have been here for generations (good buddy of mine has family dating back to the founding of Ballard).

          And we are all hanging out all over the city partying. Crocodile, Tractor Tavern, El Corazon, Nectar Lounge, Comet, Columbia City Theater, OG Funhouse, Nuemos & Barboza, and sooo much more.

          Seattle is a fun city. And if you can find your peeps, this place will raise you up.

          • Brave Little Hitachi Wand@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            1 month ago

            I left a few years ago, but by then it had changed a lot. Seattle has always been a boomtown, and I think it’s more my style during the busts.

            In this new place I haven’t had time to find a crowd, too busy being dad. Most of England feels like the rundown side of a gold rush though, all faded glory. Works for me.

  • jaschen306@sh.itjust.works
    171·
    1 month ago

    Went to HS in the late 90s. I didn’t “dress up” but I didn’t want to look grundge or a homeless person. My classmates used to call me Metro or a yuppie.

    Every girl wore sweats, and every guy dressed like a hobo in the 90s.

  • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca
    15·
    1 month ago

    Meangirls feels kinda accurate?
    I remember the popular girls often dressed the way Lindsay Lohan did in that movie.

    Then again, I graduated shortly before that movie came out, so it’s been a while and my memory may have failed me

  • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
    141·
    1 month ago

    I used to think that media isn’t influencing my real life worldviews in a significant way. But now that I am older, I realised that media sold us impossible notions that so long as you live within your means, you could have a pretty good lifestyle as a young adult, while also eventually able to save money to buy your own house and raise a family. I kinda got that from Friends. Although now, that ship has sailed. These shows and movies were operating on the zeitgeist at the time during the economic boom in 1990s and 2000s (well the media is scripted as well, so of course there is bending reality). After the late 00’s economic crash, as a millennial, we are forced to give up one desire and dreams over the other. We couldn’t have it all unlike the older generations.

    I feel worse for the younger generations following us. They are going to inherit a world that is literally cooking everyone, in spite the inspiration from Greta Thunberg to global protest against the inaction on climate change when they were kids. How could they feel more optimistic about the future like the boomers and Gen X? No wonder populist far right is gaining traction; the global liberal order failed all of us except for the few elites.

    I didn’t mean to go on a long serious musing over a post about high school clothings lol. It was a spur of the moment.

  • AlexLost@lemmy.world
    51·
    1 month ago

    That’s what they wanted you to believe. They’ve been selling us “culture” for decades. It’s all a form of propaganda.

    • Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
      3·
      1 month ago

      Big money bank dude goes to fashion show. Buys favorite designer. Calls friend up who owns studio. Calls agent buddy who owns influences. Money exchanges hands at Epstien Island regular island. Studio influencers push designers line. Kids brainwashed by media to think designer clothes are what adult women wear and start cat fighting over outfits. Middling adults see kids trendy new style and start to steal it. Sales go up. Trend gets old. Rinse and repeat every year.

  • grrgyle@slrpnk.net
    41·
    1 month ago

    There was always that one kid, though. The hype beast on a budget that could turn 20 lewks on no money.

  • solrize@lemmy.ml
    28·
    1 month ago

    I don’t get it except the red-shirted lady looks way out of proportion, like an AI pic maybe. I dressed like a slob in HS and have no idea how other people dressed.