Who pays to watch these things? Like Fast and Furious part 47 is clearly making money as is Comic book hero vs other comic book anti-hero part 32.
I know I’m old, but I can’t even name the year when I last paid to go see a movie.
See, I actually think the F&F franchise is the exception here. The first one is just about some folks who like cars stealing DVD players. If it had just been that movie, I think it would have been mostly forgotten. It’s not bad, but it’s not iconic on its own. With each subsequent one they continue to lean harder and harder in to ridiculousness to the point where suddenly we have Tyrese and Ludacris in SPACE. To me the franchise is an example of how to do the action movie right: with a huge amount of self awareness and never taking it too seriously. They know what kind of movies they’re making.
The first one is just about some folks who like cars stealing DVD players
Not even… CRT TV/VCR combos
yeah fast and furious is basically anime and i love it for that
Toy Story 4, Toy Story 5…
Which wouldn’t be so bad if they did more of a reboot with entirely new toys to keep the stories separate.
Or just leave a franchise to conclude and take that time and money to create something new.
Which is what Pixar explicitly did until Disney commanded they make sequels.
I remember seeing Kung fu panda in the theater with my niece, walking away thinking, well that was a nice complete story and forgetting about it.
There is a 4th one now???
The 3rd one is actually pretty good
Lord of the Rings, the moment it was infested by the malignant growth of WB.
What? The LotR series is an amazing accomplishment. Probably the best trilogy of all time, and the highest grossing trilogy of all time.
It’s probably in reference to The Hobbit movies - which were…less than great.
And Rings of Power, which was also…less than great.
The most boring movie I have ever watched. Even with work paying for the tickets I still feel I’m owed something for wasting my time watching them. I didn’t come back for seconds.
A 300 page children’s book pointlessly and agonisingly squeezed into about 8 hours of terrible CGI cinema.
That fucking barrel ride scene is a travesty.
The Matrix Resurrections?
My favourite part of this movie was that they directly call out WB by making an unnecessary sequel mandate part of the plot.
And yet there are rumors that they’re going to force another one! I figured that would have stopped them in their tracks, but the studios are relentless.
Resurrections made money. Creativity matters not, number must go up.
Did it? Didn’t that release straight to streaming?
And honestly that made it work for me. Not that alone, it was a work of art in its own right, not just one more part. More like a spinoff if that makes sense. It has a very different setting and stuff, I like it
I liked all the references to the Matrix Trilogy being a trans allegory but I see the movie separate from the original three. It’s not head canon for me.
Felt this with MGS4.
Ending: You’ve been going too long, Snake - given too much. Quit smoking. Live your life. Don’t look back. Don’t turn out like me.
MGSV trailer: HERE WE GO AGAIN
Everyone forgets PEACE WALKER
Like River Song coming back to Doctor Who for no reason and destroying the whole idea
To hear Russell Crowe tell it, Gladiator 2 may suffer from this
They’re making a Gladiator Two? WTF? Why? How? Let me guess, he knocked up Commodus’ sister when she visited him in prison and the kid will be betrayed by the Senate and have to fight its way back into power?
I think it’s Joachim Phoenix’s character’s son, but yeah…
I met someone who worked on this movie and she says 2 is gonna be pretty okay-ish, not bad but nowhere near as good as the original.
If even the people making it are like “it’s pretty mid”, it was probably a waste of time lol
Since everybody knows it’s going to be mediocre, they should have just used the budget to make a historically-realistic movie about something in that era.
Yeah, but it’s not like anything interesting and movie-worthy ever happened back then.
Bit later but im juat ginba drop one of my favorite qoutes from antiquity. “Give me back my Legions”
Seriously id kill for a movie about the Battle of Teutoberg Forest.
There’s a short 1 season long series called “barbarians” which is supposedly pretty good. I don’t know if they made a session 2, but I know that season 1 had a conclusion and all historic advisors left work for season 2 because it became ridiculous.
Highlander 2: The Shittening
All of the sequels are weird since the first film is literally about the end of the immortals, but among the billion sequels and TV show, Highlander 2 is definitely the weirdest. I like how the rest of the sequels 100% ignore it.
Like: suddenly they’re aliens and Sean Connery can be resurrected by shouting his name, and he can project a force from his hand, but it’ll make him die again, and Connor is a scientist who made a shield to replace the Ozone in the future but the Ozone layer is actually fine so they have to destroy the shield generator in a Cyberpunk dystopia.
There’s not enough cocaine on the planet to explain that script.
Oh, there’s a Highlander 4 in the works. It’s not dead yet. One saving grace is that it has Cavill in it, I liked his Witcher quite a bit, so I have hope for the Highlander 4.
There’s already 5 Highlander movies. The reboot would be the 6th
Isn’t this going to be a complete reboot? Cavill will be great in it.
No idea. Haven’t followed it that closely.
Grim Fandango’d
Godfather 3…. why?!
Why are you watching a sequel you didn’t want?
Because as a fan I’m contractually obligated to consume and enjoy all related content, rave about it online, and buy $100 worth plastic waste a year.
It can shit on the original, loved canon by people citing and making memes about the crappy sequel. Examples: The Matrix, Star Wars
Oh no, not memes!
I know, right??
(I actually do enjoy the SW prequel memes themselves, just not the reminder those movies exist)
I binged all of Game of Thrones when the last season started just so I could appreciate the memes. I caught up by episode 3 IIRC. Worth it. The memes were glorious.
Makes sense. That season is so bad, it’s basically comedy.
All the terminators after 2
I actually quite like 3, if only for the ending.
It was quite a cool ending to be fair
👏 Bad 👏 sequels/spinoffs 👏 don’t 👏 ruin 👏 existing 👏 works 👏
They do if they retcon things that happened in the good installments, like MSG4 explaining all the cool and unexplained stuff from the previous three by saying “nanomachines did it” except the one thing that would have made sense to be nanomachines, which turned out to be a case self-hypnosis.
👏We’re👏sick👏of👏the👏waste👏of👏money👏and👏creative👏talent👏producing👏garbage👏
Sometimes sequels are how movies get made at all.
There’s a story about the suggested sequel to the gladiator that has Maximus traveling through fucking time. The reason that movie was pitched was because the director and the writer specifically did not want to make that movie. But the contract for the Gladiator required a multiple movie deal if it was successful. So they pitched the craziest shit imaginable and the studio let them out of the contact.
A lot of movies are made this away. Original IP doesn’t get picked up unless a studio thinks they can milk it.
Sometimes sequels are how movies get made at all.
I say this with the utmost respect to “the industry”: If all you have is a shitty moneygrab sequel or reboot “or nothing,” make nothing. Get back to the goddamn writer’s room, take a walk to your local comic shop and look for something creator owned that hasn’t been adapted if you have to, there’s plenty good shit, worked for Invincible, but for “Bob’s” sake stooooop with the bullshit.
Not that it matters to me, I gave up on them in about 2010, and they’d have to pay me to watch their garbage now.
So they have to game their contracts to not be forcefully made to milk a franchise. Sounds like a lovely industry. Maybe it should be torn down and a wave of small creators and indie studios will revive the golden age of film as art instead of being products to milk.
So those indie films definitely still get made, sometimes. But there’s a big fucking asterisk attached to that. Fox searchlight and another of similar firms will buy movies that have already been made and give them a wider audience. A24 also produces films that would traditionally fly the insie circuit. But for the most part, these movies are being paid for by the people making them, and whether or not they ever see that money returned is purely a matter of luck.
Kevin Smith has a long story about how he managed to finance one of his movies only because he’d done a shitty Bruce Willis movie. And relatively speaking the movie the financed was peanuts compared to what some can cost.
They should have spent the budget on something that was original and took a risk. We can watch a shitty reboot or a shitty original - and some of those original movies that are panned as not good at least have a shot at maybe becoming a cult classic or a fan fave.
