• Num10ck@lemmy.world
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    the walls of a bus are sheetmetal thin, while car doors are padded with soundproofing and foam and handles and speakers and airbags and multiple layers of metal. plus the bus seats are benches for easy side movement while cars have bucket seats and seatbelts.

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    Does anyone else think it’s weird that in our closets we can reach and touch the other side but in my living room we can’t and they both fit in my house?

    Edit: Downvoted by the guy with the walk-in closet I guess. Lucky bastard.

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        It’s always funny seeing dually drivers who are afraid of how wide they are. You can always spot them because they’ll maintain way too much distance from the curb, and end up riding the line for the middle lane. Experienced dually drivers have no issues staying in a lane, but the newbies will almost always end up halfway into the middle lane as an overcorrection, because they’re afraid of curbing their rear tires.

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      I still feel like I don’t really know how magnets work. The more I learn, the more befuddled I am. Like, I can be fine with the physics and stuff, but then I think about it too hard or too little and it’s like one of those seeing eye pictures except instead of everything coming to focus, I suddenly become confused.

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        I think the difference is in how people interpret the question of how they work. Like you could say, easy, magnetic fields. But you can always drill down to a deeper layer. How do magnetic fields work? Well there’s a force exerted on a particle moving through a magnetic field because of the electric charge. Yeah, but HOW. Well, quantum electrodynamics and virtual photons. Yeah but how do THOSE work, and why? There’s a fundamental level where explanations become WHAT something does and not HOW it does it. Whether or not someone thinks we understand how magnets work depends on how deeply they’ve thought about the question.

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          Yeah, but like, everything is like that. The fact your not falling through the floor requires a similar explanation. The fact you can see requires a far more complex one

          I remember a flashlight I had, where you could remove the reflector. I could see the little sunbeams coming off them, and I told my friend maybe I wanted to study light. He told me it’s just photons… Which later in life I realized says nothing, but at the time totally killed my enthusiasm

          Magnets make sense to me though. Maybe since I’ve been playing with them since i can remember - maybe I can’t see or feel a magnetic field naturally, but I can feel it holding a magnet. Magnets make sense - they’re weird, but they make sense.

          Light doesn’t… Our understanding of it is so clearly wrong, but sure let’s pretend it’s normal for something to be a wave that turns into a basic unit of energy when you look too closely. The universe loves inconsistency, right?

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            Well that just gets into how deep one thinks about the question, “how does it work?” Because the fact is we have mathematical models that describe what particles and fields are doing, but there is yet to be an answer to “how” they do it. If you’re satisfied with a model describing “what” something does as an answer to “how” it works then the question ends right there.

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    As someone who regularly drives a large vehicle, I find it amusing how big a berth folks in little cars give. If my box truck can make it you don’t need to cut half way into the next lane in your Fiat.

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      Are you talking about those motherfuckers that turn a little to the opposite direction before turning? I fucking HATE that shit.

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        uhm that’s counter steering and actually helps you reach the apex of the corner quicker.
        rookie racer

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          The motherfuckers who do this take said turn at like 2km/h, they’re not racing at all

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            If they are traveling in the right direction they can actually take the turn in upwards of 1672 km/h in your example

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        Quickest line and far easier to not hit those rims. You might not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.

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        The good news: I don’t drive anymore

        The bad news: I did that shit because I grew up on an intersection with a real bad angle, so the only way to see both directions was to angle the car flat with the road I was turning onto. Then, even after moving, I did it because it gives better visibility.

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          We might be talking about something different, or maybe I’m just having difficulty understanding. You at least have a good reason for doing what you did. What I was mentioning is when people turn to the opposite direction of their actual turn, because they think they need more room to clear the sidewalk corner. The solution to this is to simply pull FORWARD a little more before your turn. It’s NEVER a good idea to move unpredictably on the road, and that action is a prime example.

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            Also, I frequently watch morons turning right move as far right into the shoulder as they can hundreds and hundreds of feet before their turn, so then they have to either come to a near dead stop or swing back out into the travel lane (or both) before they complete their turn so they don’t hit the corner of the curb.

            Just… don’t do that?

            As you have correctly observed, the correct way to clear the corner is not to turn too early. But it is also to not deliberately start out as close to the obstacle you’re trying to avoid (the corner) as possible. You’d think that would be obvious, and yet.

            These are the same dillweeds I see pathologically swinging into the furthest away lane every single time they make a turn from a single lane onto a multi lane road, as if they’re afraid turning the steering wheel past 15 degrees will cause them to spill their beers, or something.

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            My dad doesn’t swing to the left when turning right, but he does take the turn as wide as he can so he doesn’t have to slow down as much, for instance. Being a passenger in his car is nauseating.

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        It because they’re bracing themselves with the steering wheel when doing a very exaggerated shoulder check.
        My driver training course explicitly brought this up, but presumably not everyone took driver training.

        But I don’t think that’s what they’re talking about, I think they mean that little cars who give an enormous berth between their car and obstacles, so they end up taking up as much of the road as a large car would

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          You are correct that’s what I mean. Little cars passing parked cars, rubbish on the road, or bicyclists in the bike lane going half way, or more, into the oncoming lane to avoid it.

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            It only takes one bike to wobble as you pass or one baby cart coming unexpectedly out behind the obstacle to imprint the need to give wide clearance

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      Mother fucking idiot 18 wheeler drivers sway out of lanes all the time. I do appreciate you being aware though. Some of those folks shouldn’t even drive a 10 ft box truck.

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    For real though, cars feel big and we aren’t equipped to understand speeds above like 25 mph. It’s easy to think that in a standard sized car there is only like a foot or two on either side of your car and the other lanes and that each of those dashed lines on the pavement are just a couple feet long. In reality almost all cars and standard duty trucks and vans are less than 7 feet wide, most are closer to 6 and the lane itself is 12 feet wide. Each of those dashed lines is 10 feet long and twenty feet separates each line.

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    Reference

    City | Transit Buses have average lengths of 39’2” (11.95 m), widths of 8’4” (2.55 m), heights of 9’10” (2.99 m)

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    Most popular “car” in US—Ford F-150

    Overall length, 19.3’ ; Cab height, 6.45’ ; Width - Excluding mirrors, 6.66’

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    Lane widths in US vary, but should be between 9’ and 12’ (inclusive range for both local streets and highways)

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    Conclusion: Busses are wider than cars, both can fit within driving lanes

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      It’s more than that, though. A car is essentially an elevated trapezoid in cross-section, and you’re sitting near the narrow top of the trapezoid. A Ford F-150 is essentially the same thing, but slightly less tapered and the base is lifted higher up. Either way, you’re squeezed into a lot less than that 6.66’ of width. Private automobile doors are also much thicker than bus doors, there’s space allocated for airbags, there’s stuff on the inside of the door that takes up some of the width.

      A bus is essentially a rectangular prism projected all the way back. It uses the FULL 8’4, minus the width of the walls, for every row of seats. So it’s probably more like 3-4’ extra width compared to a car.

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    Ride a motorcycle behind a car - then ride behind a bus. You’ll really understand the difference from that point of view.

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    I drive an F-150. I cannot reach the passenger door from the driver’s seat.